Tuesday 18th September
- Alex Bridgeman
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Tuesday 18th September
As luck would have it, I am on a training course in London on the 18th September and would be very happy to delay my return home after being fully trained.
Just in case you were wondering, I am assuming that my training course is designed to get me from a state of summer Port deprivation into a fit state to be able to cope with the Warre v Fonseca tasting the following week (on Monday the 24th).
Anyone care to help with my training?
Just in case you were wondering, I am assuming that my training course is designed to get me from a state of summer Port deprivation into a fit state to be able to cope with the Warre v Fonseca tasting the following week (on Monday the 24th).
Anyone care to help with my training?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
I was planning to do some training that day too so will join you and we can inspire one another to reach peak performance in time for the big day.AHB wrote:Anyone care to help with my training?
Is this how rowers prepared for the Olympics?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
I'm not sure. Are there any of the GB rowers you would like me to invite along and ask?DRT wrote:Is this how rowers prepared for the Olympics?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Permission granted. Hurray! I’m in.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
I have booked the small room at the Bunghole. The large room was unavailable.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Please could this be sighted?
- Alex Bridgeman
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
Fine with me. Don't yet know what I am going to bring though.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Hello, you crazy cats. Sorry I can't make this one, but I will be particularly interested to hear what you think. Keep me posted, eh?
Ghandi
Ghandi
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
From Oddbins London Bridge, for £26, I have purchased a 75cl bottle of Sandeman Vau 2000, which will also be at this tasting.
Placemats coming. So far this seems to be AHB, JDAW, and DRT, with two bottles and three halves of Sandeman Vau. We could accommodate one or two more people (and ports, of course).
Placemats coming. So far this seems to be AHB, JDAW, and DRT, with two bottles and three halves of Sandeman Vau. We could accommodate one or two more people (and ports, of course).
Re: Tuesday 18th September
First draft of the placemats.
- Three people; 2×75cl + 3×37½cl. Please confirm.
- Unusual question on last voting sheet.
- Same fonts as used for the Sandeman Vertical at the RAF Club on 13th May 2011.
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
Looks good to me.
Can I suggest that we substitute "excellent" for "great" on the unusual question sheet? This would allow a single letter abbreviation to be used to record each person's vote for each wine.
Can I suggest that we substitute "excellent" for "great" on the unusual question sheet? This would allow a single letter abbreviation to be used to record each person's vote for each wine.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
And such a noble sacrifice!
Oddbins website did not mention the Vau, yet it was there. Please look in your local off licences, just in case. We are now a little on port, and sticking with the theme would be helpful. (Do we gain much by reporting that the SV97 was not as good as G70? Well, we taste G70 again, which is always a joy, but a G70 might be better saved until a later tasting. So Sandeman Vau much preferred, even a repeat bottle.)
Oddbins website did not mention the Vau, yet it was there. Please look in your local off licences, just in case. We are now a little on port, and sticking with the theme would be helpful. (Do we gain much by reporting that the SV97 was not as good as G70? Well, we taste G70 again, which is always a joy, but a G70 might be better saved until a later tasting. So Sandeman Vau much preferred, even a repeat bottle.)
Re: Tuesday 18th September
I have a half of 97 and full bottle of 2000.
The wine shop messed up the order and instead of the half of 99 i ordered, sent a further half of 2000.
I have offered these for a separate tasting, so will confirm whether that is going ahead before committing to bring to this.
The wine shop messed up the order and instead of the half of 99 i ordered, sent a further half of 2000.
I have offered these for a separate tasting, so will confirm whether that is going ahead before committing to bring to this.
Rob C.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +RAYC;
- +Decanter labels;
- ‟Excellent, Good, Nice, Tolerable, or Inadequate?”
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Does this mean we are to bring Sandeman Vau or bring nothing?jdaw1 wrote:We are now a little on port, and sticking with the theme would be helpful. (Do we gain much by reporting that the SV97 was not as good as G70? Well, we taste G70 again, which is always a joy, but a G70 might be better saved until a later tasting. So Sandeman Vau much preferred, even a repeat bottle.)
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
That was my intention. If we buy lots of SV, then it would be a daily drinker, not a tasting star. I’m trying to test it in something like battlefield conditions.DRT wrote:Does this mean we are to bring Sandeman Vau or bring nothing?
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Wilco.jdaw1 wrote:That was my intention. If we buy lots of SV, then it would be a daily drinker, not a tasting star. I’m trying to test it in something like battlefield conditions.DRT wrote:Does this mean we are to bring Sandeman Vau or bring nothing?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
I've looked in 5 different wine shops today - none have any Vau 

Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Thank you.AHB wrote:I've looked in 5 different wine shops today - none have any Vau
So we’ll be a touch light, but with RAYC always late, and beer available nearby, we’ll squeeze by.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Hmmm, i thought the Vau was the amuse-bouche and didn't appreciate we weren't bringing other port as well. I will probably bring one but anyone who wants battlefield conditions is, of course, welcome to abstain from drinking it.
And if the general idea is not to bring other VP, is it worth including any other benchmark ports for which buying opportunities may arise?
eg: G crusted, Warre/Quevedo LBV, Tesco 94? Sains 03? Malv/Bomfim 98/99?

And if the general idea is not to bring other VP, is it worth including any other benchmark ports for which buying opportunities may arise?
eg: G crusted, Warre/Quevedo LBV, Tesco 94? Sains 03? Malv/Bomfim 98/99?
Rob C.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
This is a good idea. Please can Field Marshall JDAW issue orders promptly?RAYC wrote:And if the general idea is not to bring other VP, is it worth including any other benchmark ports for which buying opportunities may arise?
eg: G crusted, Warre/Quevedo LBV, Tesco 94? Sains 03? Malv/Bomfim 98/99?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Splendid plan. Please let me know what so that the placemats can be updated. (SCP-DFF ‘discovered’ Tesco yesterday, and bought a bottle of the ’94 (Symington, presumably QH). Delicious decanted about 1pm.)DRT wrote:This is a good idea. Please can Field Marshall JDAW issue orders promptly?RAYC wrote:eg: G crusted, Warre/Quevedo LBV, Tesco 94? Sains 03? Malv/Bomfim 98/99?
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Bonus question: any objection to pop-and-pour for the multiple bottles of Sandeman Vau?
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Given the likely destiny of the vast majority of the SV we might buy I think pop-and-pour is as near battlefield conditions as we can getjdaw1 wrote:Bonus question: any objection to pop-and-pour for the multiple bottles of Sandeman Vau?

Please choose my contribution from:
>> Warre LBV 1981
>> Warre LBV 1995
>> Graham Crusted bottled 2004
Or I could go out today and buy a Tesco 1994 VP.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
My vote is the Graham Crusted bottled 2004.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
SCP-DFD just called me from Tesco to ask if there was anything needed. I did what anyone would do in the circumstances and ordered a Tesco (QH) 1994 VP.
I am happy to bring that and the G2004C if that would be helpful?
I am happy to bring that and the G2004C if that would be helpful?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
You are not playing fair and are cornering the market in decent Morgan '91 substitutes.
I could bring a Morgan '91, but appear to have been beaten to the punch on other options such as Tesco '94 or Sainsbury '03.
Although no-one has yet mentioned the option of the Cruz '95 on offer from Morrisson's...
I could bring a Morgan '91, but appear to have been beaten to the punch on other options such as Tesco '94 or Sainsbury '03.
Although no-one has yet mentioned the option of the Cruz '95 on offer from Morrisson's...
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Morgan 1991 is an excellent idea given that we are looking for its replacement.AHB wrote:I could bring a Morgan '91, but appear to have been beaten to the punch on other options such as Tesco '94 or Sainsbury '03.
Although no-one has yet mentioned the option of the Cruz '95 on offer from Morrisson's...
Tesco 1994 - you are welcome to bring one, or I can bring mine?
Sainsbury 2003 - not yet offered so please feel free to bring along.
Cruz 1995 - no thanks.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
I think a Sainsbury '03 would be more appropriate. A Morgan '91 has the unfair advantage of 8-12 years additional maturity over the Vau that we are considering as its replacement.
I shall bring the Sainsbury '03.
I shall bring the Sainsbury '03.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
AHB wrote:I shall bring the Sainsbury '03.

I have made an executive decision.
Please update placemats to include Tesco 94 and Graham Crusted bottled 2004 from DRT.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Anyone have a Bomfim 92 on them? i am happy to adopt - either in cash or to be replaced with one of my own in due course (once out of Seckfords). Might be an interesting comparison.
I'll also see if Waitrose have the Warre 01 LBV. or i could bring Quevedo 04 LBV. up to you guys.
I'll also see if Waitrose have the Warre 01 LBV. or i could bring Quevedo 04 LBV. up to you guys.
Rob C.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
RAYC: we have 5½ bottles (3½ of SV, G04C, Sainsbury ’03) between four people. That’s OK. No need to adopt. Come empty-handed. Often enough you come over-laden.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Tesco 1994 is also packed and ready to roll. We have 6½.jdaw1 wrote:we have 5½ bottles (3½ of SV, G04C, Sainsbury ’03) between four people.
RAYC, one of mine is yours, please don't bring anything else.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Admin: has DRT's account been hacked again?DRT wrote:please don't bring anything else.

Ben
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
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Vintage 1970 and now proud owner of my first ever 'half-century'!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Updated draft of the placemats.
- +?03, ?04, G04C.
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
I think for the sake of aesthetic completeness DRT needs to inform us where he bought the Graham Crusted. I will be twitchy all night if he does not do so or if you don't include this information on the placemat.jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats.
- +?03, ?04, G04C.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
The G04C was purchased here as part of a lot of 30ish bottles in a 25% off sale. Some of those bottles went to Holburn and have not been seen or heard of since 

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
No TPF member lives in Holborn, so they must be gone.DRT wrote:Some of those bottles went to Holburn and have not been seen or heard of since
Note self: add to placemats both Asda and Wolfgang. And maybe DB92.
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
Is the little room too small for a late addition (i.e. me?)
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
The more the merrier!uncle tom wrote:Is the little room too small for a late addition (i.e. me?)
We had the foresight (well, Julian did) last week to change our booking from the small room to Table 6, the long one in the alcove. This has the advantage of being able to accommodate additional people more easily than the small room.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Did I? Delighted to hear it the more the merrier but I have no recollection of doing that.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Happy for more people to join in but does this mean we are now in Port deficit?AHB wrote:The more the merrier!uncle tom wrote:Is the little room too small for a late addition (i.e. me?)
We had the foresight (well, Julian did) last week to change our booking from the small room to Table 6, the long one in the alcove. This has the advantage of being able to accommodate additional people more easily than the small room.
Do we need to find a couple of double mags from somewhere to avoid going thirsty?
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
Ernest H. Cockburn
Re: Tuesday 18th September
I’ve phoned.
No, not the office. No, not table six. We have the function room, and I’ve requested 65 glasses.
The more the merrier.
No, not the office. No, not table six. We have the function room, and I’ve requested 65 glasses.
The more the merrier.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Please could somebody post, before 10pm tonight, the list of ports that need to appear (or be added to) the placemats? Thank you.
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Re: Tuesday 18th September
Will bring a Morgan '94
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Hi,
found the Bomfim 92 and will hand over to Rob tomorrow.
regards
WS1
found the Bomfim 92 and will hand over to Rob tomorrow.
regards
WS1
"Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough"
Mark Twain
Mark Twain
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Rather later notice than promised!
Placemats updated, but I can’t upload the new version from work.
Please could somebody bring string, for the decanter labels.
Placemats updated, but I can’t upload the new version from work.
Please could somebody bring string, for the decanter labels.
Re: Tuesday 18th September
Links:
- Review of the evening as a whole;
- 1997 Sandeman Vau (Stevens Garnier, 37½cl);
- 1997 Sandeman Vau (Oporto Airport, 37½cl);
- 1999 Sandeman Vau (Stevens Garnier, 37½cl);
- 2000 Sandeman Vau (Oddbins, 75cl);
- 2000 Sandeman Vau (Stevens Garnier, 37½cl);
- 2003 Sandeman Vau (Stevens Garnier, 75cl);
- 1992 Dow Quinta do Bomfim;
- 1994 Morgan;
- 1994 Tesco;
- 2003 Sainsbury’s;
- Graham Crusted bottled 2004;
- 1986 Niepoort Colheita bottled 2010;
- Placemats;
- Planning and arrangements.