Tuesday, October 8th, London, "Bring a bottle to share"

[Andy Velebil]

I will be in London on Tuesday October 8th and will have the afternoon/evening free at this point. If anyone happens to be around London and would care to meet and enjoy some liquid refreshment of any kind let me know.

Not sure exactly were my hotel is as I've not booked it yet. So if anyone is available to meet, let me know where (the usual spot???) and I'll try and find a nearby hotel.

EDIT ON DETAILS:

COMING:
Me
DRT
JDAW1
idj123
Philw
CMAG
Uncle Tom
AHB
CPR1 (Charles)

POSSIBLE:
RAYC
WS1

BOTTLES:
1935 Calem (THRA)
1931 Taylor Pinhao (CMAG)
1970 Graham (DRT)
1970 Taylor (JDAW1)
1970 Croft (Philw)
1970 Martinez (AHB)
1970 Warre's (Andy V)
1977 Fonseca (CPR 1)
1970 Cockburn (idj123)

TASTING SHEETS:
JDAW1

[DRT]

I'll be in London that evening and am happy to meet for a light refreshment

Have you experienced The Bunghole yet?

[WS1]

Me too! Since I still need to hand over a bt of Calem 1960 to DRT I would like to suggest doing this on this Tuesday 8th of October. I will bring a second bt of Calem 1960 in order to verify what DRT bought and also would kindly hope others join in bringing further Calem refreshments.
Recently quite a few Calems became via uncle Tom availble so I would like to suggest dependent on attendees to include 80, 83, 85 and 97. Calem 03 is very good but I have it not availble. I may have a 63 floating around but would first need to locate it again.
IMHO this should qualify for a light Tuesday evening offline

regards

WS1

[Andy Velebil]

Fantastic. Not sure what Calem I have, but will check around my parts and see what I can find.

Been to the Bunghole once. Great place and the perfect place to meet on this evening.

[RAYC]

Hope to be there but can't confirm yet.

Unfortunately I don't have any Calem but i will bring something suitable from the 60s or 70s (hopefully preferable to 80s / 90s Calem anyway!)

[djewesbury]

It's possible I could come to this. I've got a new lecturing job, and I'm teaching that afternoon.. But a late afternoon flight and a morning return are feasible. And I have Cálem from Tom's recent purchase stored with him.. Let's see.

[jdaw1]

I have booked the Function Room at The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel +44 20 7831 8365, streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk, bing.com).

No objection to this being a Cálem tasting with accent, except a need to adopt. Please may I adopt?

And, for placemat making purposes, please could people give details of the port being brought. So far Cá80, Cá83, Cá85 and Cá97.

[Andy Velebil]

Thanks for booking room Julian!

[jdaw1]

Thanks for booking room Julian!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23781044

[djewesbury]

Thanks for booking room Julian!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23781044

Have you changed your mind about coming yet, Andy...?
!
(I have edited my previous post to correct the spelling of Cálem.)

[DRT]

Me too! Since I still need to hand over a bt of Calem 1960 to DRT I would like to suggest doing this on this Tuesday 8th of October. I will bring a second bt of Calem 1960 in order to verify what DRT bought and also would kindly hope others join in bringing further Calem refreshments.

I have no Cálem!!!! Could I please use my bottle 1960 that you are bringing to give to me as my contribution?!?!

I am very much looking forward to this!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23781044

I don't think so.

[Andy Velebil]

Crotchety old man obviously didn't keep up with the changing times. are here to stay. So there

[Andy Velebil]

A check shows the only Calem I have in my cellar is a;

1996 Calem Quinta da Foz VP

I shall bring this bottle!

If someone runs across an older one in the UK/EU that I can adopt I am open to that as well. There appears to be no older VP's than 1994 available in the USA.

[jdaw1]

There appears to be no older VP's than 1994 available in the USA.

Wine searcher has very little in the UK.

[Andy Velebil]

[RAYC]

Have you experienced The Bunghole yet?

If my memory serves better than yours, you were sitting next to him! (photo evidence)

[Andy Velebil]

Have you experienced The Bunghole yet?

If my memory serves better than yours, you were sitting next to him! (photo evidence)

That's what happens when he doesn't drink enough port. He forgets. Someone get him some port quick.

[SCP-DFF]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23781044

I don't think so.

For the record, I love exclamation points!!!

-SCP-DFF (AKA Mrs Wiseman)

[DRT]

exclamation points

[WS1]

Me too! Since I still need to hand over a bt of Calem 1960 to DRT I would like to suggest doing this on this Tuesday 8th of October. I will bring a second bt of Calem 1960 in order to verify what DRT bought and also would kindly hope others join in bringing further Calem refreshments.

I have no Cálem!!!! Could I please use my bottle 1960 that you are bringing to give to me as my contribution?!?!

I am very much looking forward to this!

fine by me; but thought you wanted one of the bts you missed out only a few minutes to me. Also found some 1977 Calems in the wine room when searching for the 1997 Calem. When the air conditioning unit broke and me buying a stronger bigger unit and rearranging the room in order to accomodate the unit I must have confused things.
Only found a 1995 Calem da Foz. Need to do a "deep dive" into the wine room in order to find the 1997 Calem I am sure I have. I am pretty sure where the 1963 Calem is. So so far we have a likely line up if we are enough people of 60, 63, 77, 80, 83, 85, 95, 96 and 97.



not bad for a Tuesday!

[Andy Velebil]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23781044

I don't think so.

For the record, I love exclamation points!!!

-SCP-DFF (AKA Mrs Wiseman)

[Andy Velebil]

fine by me; but thought you wanted one of the bts you missed out only a few minutes to me. Also found some 1977 Calems in the wine room when searching for the 1997 Calem. When the air conditioning unit broke and me buying a stronger bigger unit and rearranging the room in order to accomodate the unit I must have confused things.
Only found a 1995 Calem da Foz. Need to do a "deep dive" into the wine room in order to find the 1997 Calem I am sure I have. I am pretty sure where the 1963 Calem is. So so far we have a likely line up if we are enough people of 60, 63, 77, 80, 83, 85, 95, 96 and 97.



not bad for a Tuesday!

Not too shabby at all

[jdaw1]

First draft of the placemats.



Wolfgang: approximately everybody is adopting from you. Instead, why don’t you own the whole tasting, and tell us approximately everybody the cost of a share. Would that be simpler than an arbitrary assignment of my adopting one vintage and somebody else adopting another?

[idj123]

If there is still space I wouldn't mind attending this offline and if it takes the pressure off of Wolfgang a bit I have a bt of calem 77 I can bring?

Ian

[jdaw1]

Am on holiday in Wales at mo. Just seen 8th Oct Calem thread but have no login access. would be obliged if you would add my intention to attend in thread? Thanks.

[Andy Velebil]

If there is still space I wouldn't mind attending this offline and if it takes the pressure off of Wolfgang a bit I have a bt of calem 77 I can bring?

Ian

There is space as far as I know, so got you down.

Anyone, what's the seating capacity at the table there??

[Andy Velebil]

Am on holiday in Wales at mo. Just seen 8th Oct Calem thread but have no login access. would be obliged if you would add my intention to attend in thread? Thanks.

Got Phil down.

[jdaw1]

Anyone, what's the seating capacity at the table there??

Fourteen can be done (last three pictures are of the room, also see Taylor vertical), but is tighter than comfortable. But certainly more spacious than the Crusting Pipe, which was used for a vertical exactly five years previously.

[Andy Velebil]

I updated the first post with details.

What time is best for everyone to meet???? (not a word from JDAW1 about those question marks, as I didn't use any of these in the last three posts )

[Andy Velebil]

Anyone, what's the seating capacity at the table there??

Fourteen can be done (last three pictures are of the room, also see Taylor vertical), but is tighter than comfortable. But certainly more spacious than the Crusting Pipe, which was used for a vertical exactly five years previously.

Ok, if we keep it around 10-ish or so people max, we should be good.

[jdaw1]

Ok, if we keep it around 10-ish or so people max, we should be good.

Bottles are the tighter constraint. With nine bottles and no more to be found we shouldn’t have more than eight people.

[Andy Velebil]

Ok, if we keep it around 10-ish or so people max, we should be good.

Bottles are the tighter constraint. With nine bottles and no more to be found we shouldn’t have more than eight people.

Ok that works too. If we get more bottles we can add bodies beyond 8 if need be.

[jdaw1]

Ok that works too. If we get more bottles we can add bodies beyond 8 if need be.

Not obviously for sale in the UK, nor in the US.

[Christopher]

If there is still a space I would love to attend, I am likely going to have to adopt.

[Andy Velebil]

If there is still a space I would love to attend, I am likely going to have to adopt.

Yes, there is always room and if not we will make room. Adopt if you can, bring a young vintage of Calem if you find one, or bring something else entirely you want to share.

I don't get out to London often and this evening is more about spending a fun evening with friends and fellow Port lovers who I don't get to see very often. Not about someone worrying they can't attend because they don't have a bottle of an obscure VP named Calem.

[jdaw1]

Yes, there is always room and if not we will make room. Adopt if you can, bring a young vintage of Calem if you find one, or bring something else entirely you want to share.

I don't get out to London often and this evening is more about spending a fun evening with friends and fellow Port lovers who I don't get to see very often. Not about someone worrying they can't attend because they don't have a bottle of an obscure VP named Calem.

I agree with all that.

Question, not proposal: should the theme become ‟Cálem and Kopke”?

[Andy Velebil]

Question, not proposal: should the theme become ‟Cálem and Kopke”?

How about Calem and friends?

[jdaw1]

How about Calem and friends?

I don’t know Cálem. Who are Cálem’s friends?

[Andy Velebil]

How about Calem and friends?

I don’t know Cálem. Who are Cálem’s friends?

Calem has many many friends. The list of friends is as long as those which are registered with the IVDP to make and sell Port.

[jdaw1]

How about Calem and friends?

I don’t know Cálem. Who are Cálem’s friends?

Calem has many many friends. The list of friends is as long as those which are registered with the IVDP to make and sell Port.

Latest draft of the placemats has header ‟Cálem and not Cálem”.

[uncle tom]

I'm game

Don't have much in the way of old Calems, but I do have the '35 (bottled in Champagne bottles)

Can I open a '35?

- Computer says: Yes

[Alex Bridgeman]

I'm in. I don't have any Calem not already on the list, but I'm happy to bring something else suitable. How would a Cockburn 1967 work?

6:30 as a start time seems to work quite well.

14 round the table at the Bung Hole works fine, although it is a bit tight. The trick is to choose a night when we can eat dinner at a separate table - a Tuesday night should give us a good chance of being able to do so.

[Andy Velebil]

I'm game

Don't have much in the way of old Calems, but I do have the '35 (bottled in Champagne bottles)

Can I open a '35?

- Computer says: Yes

Very generous computer, Thank you. Do you why they used Champagne bottles?

I'm in. I don't have any Calem not already on the list, but I'm happy to bring something else suitable. How would a Cockburn 1967 work?

6:30 as a start time seems to work quite well.

14 round the table at the Bung Hole works fine, although it is a bit tight. The trick is to choose a night when we can eat dinner at a separate table - a Tuesday night should give us a good chance of being able to do so.

Whatever you would like to bring is perfect. Meaning Ck '67 is perfect

[PhilW]

Am on holiday in Wales at mo. Just seen 8th Oct Calem thread but have no login access. would be obliged if you would add my intention to attend in thread? Thanks.

Got Phil down.

Thank you, and thanks to JDAW for forwarding my note while I was away unable to post. I have Cá63 (one bottle), Cá83 and Cá85 available. Alternatively, if we're getting a bit light on bottles and Wolfgang has the Cálems covered with others adopting etc, then I could bring a Croft 70 - same initial as Cá, same number of letters as Cálem, a missing obvious year - surely one of "Cálem’s friends"?

[Christopher]

I am afraid no Calem, I shall be bringing a Taylor Pinhao 31 plus a back up bottle of something else to ensure we do not run dry!

[RAYC]

If there's enthusiasm to add more Calem ports, this french online retailer has an interesting line-up of 90 - 94 - 97 Quinta do Sagrado VPs available: link

[uncle tom]

Do you [know] why they used Champagne bottles?

No. The corks are sawn off champagne corks - very odd. I wonder whether they might be French bottled, perhaps..

I bought six of them back in October 2009, and one was adopted by Ben for the xmas bash that year:

http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 1935+calem

[WS1]

First draft of the placemats.



Wolfgang: approximately everybody is adopting from you. Instead, why don’t you own the whole tasting, and tell us approximately everybody the cost of a share. Would that be simpler than an arbitrary assignment of my adopting one vintage and somebody else adopting another?

agree that this would probably best since I have of all contributed bts more than 1bt. Also good news and bad news. Found the 63 Calem (glorious colour and into neck level ) and the 1997 Calem VP as well as a 1997 Calem Quinta da Foz. So I guess we have to try both or what do attendees think?
cost for the ports (2x 97, 95, 85, 83, 80, 77, 63 and 60) would be 26£ per head if we are 14 people. Please let me know how we want to go ahead.

regards

WS1

[RAYC]

First draft of the placemats.



Wolfgang: approximately everybody is adopting from you. Instead, why don’t you own the whole tasting, and tell us approximately everybody the cost of a share. Would that be simpler than an arbitrary assignment of my adopting one vintage and somebody else adopting another?

agree that this would probably best since I have of all contributed bts more than 1bt. Also good news and bad news. Found the 63 Calem (glorious colour and into neck level ) and the 1997 Calem VP as well as a 1997 Calem Quinta da Foz. So I guess we have to try both or what do attendees think?
cost for the ports (2x 97, 95, 85, 83, 80, 77, 63 and 60) would be 26£ per head if we are 14 people. Please let me know how we want to go ahead.

regards

WS1

Not sure this suggestion works particularly well if THRA is bringing a '35 Calem, Christopher is bringing a 31 Taylor Pinhao, Alex is bringing a 67 Cockburn and I am bringing 60s / 70s bottle of something (perhaps a nice occasion for a 69 Vargellas if Phil is attending and AHB still hasn't tried it, as mentioned here?).

[RAYC]

I have booked the Function Room at The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel +44 20 7831 8365, streetmap.co.uk, maps.google.co.uk, bing.com).

Have you also enquired about eating outside the function room? Once up to 8 (or more) attendees, i think that becomes worthwhile rather than trying to squeeze food next to port.