Wednesday 2nd October in London
Wednesday 2nd October in London
Will be in London with the wife, and thought it would be nice to meet a member or three or five of TPF at the Bunghole (I will be staying over at Portman Square). I am travelling light, and not sure what I might be able to bring, but will take a look around. Might the Bunghole have a bottle I can buy, or is there one I can adopt from somebody. If not, will just see what I can find in the shops.
Am open to all suggestions.
Cheers
TLW
Am open to all suggestions.
Cheers
TLW
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I'll also be in London on October 2 and would be happy to have dinner at the Bunghole.
Can I suggest that you call the Bunghole and book a table or one of the private rooms?
While you can certainly buy a bottle from the short port list at the Bunghole (choice of Smith Woodhouse 1983, Dow 1994, Offley 1977, Taylor 1980), it's also worth you taking a look at the Davy off-sales list. That has a much wider choice of ports. Provided you buy from the off-sales list at least a week before you want the bottle, you can have the bottle delivered to the Bunghole ready to be opened and drunk on October 2nd.
Can I suggest that you call the Bunghole and book a table or one of the private rooms?
While you can certainly buy a bottle from the short port list at the Bunghole (choice of Smith Woodhouse 1983, Dow 1994, Offley 1977, Taylor 1980), it's also worth you taking a look at the Davy off-sales list. That has a much wider choice of ports. Provided you buy from the off-sales list at least a week before you want the bottle, you can have the bottle delivered to the Bunghole ready to be opened and drunk on October 2nd.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Many thanks for the suggestions. I will probably just go for the 94 Dow from their list.AHB wrote:I'll also be in London on October 2 and would be happy to have dinner at the Bunghole.
Can I suggest that you call the Bunghole and book a table or one of the private rooms?
While you can certainly buy a bottle from the short port list at the Bunghole (choice of Smith Woodhouse 1983, Dow 1994, Offley 1977, Taylor 1980), it's also worth you taking a look at the Davy off-sales list. That has a much wider choice of ports. Provided you buy from the off-sales list at least a week before you want the bottle, you can have the bottle delivered to the Bunghole ready to be opened and drunk on October 2nd.
I have booked a table, initially for six, but can probably increase or decrease as needed.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
For the moment please may I be a tentative acceptance.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Sounds excellent. Hope to see you there.jdaw1 wrote:For the moment please may I be a tentative acceptance.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Are there any other likely attendees next Wednesday?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Thus far it looks like four of us, and I will amend the reservation accordingly.
Looking forward to finally meeting you gentlemen.
Looking forward to finally meeting you gentlemen.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Potentially am now available, and if so would love to come.
However, i will need to confirm tomorrow - is that ok?
However, i will need to confirm tomorrow - is that ok?
Rob C.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I would suggest that you leave the reservation as being for 6 people. If one or two extra people turn up then we have space for them. If we end up being 4 at a table for 6 there will be plenty of room to write notes.TLW wrote:Thus far it looks like four of us, and I will amend the reservation accordingly.
When you made the reservation did you mention that it was for the Port Forum? Also did you mention that we would need up to 36 glasses?
That's absolutely fine by me.RAYC wrote:Potentially am now available, and if so would love to come.
However, i will need to confirm tomorrow - is that ok?
Have I said what I am bringing? If not, does anyone want to know? (NB - DRT who cannot attend might be given a different answer to TLW, who is attending.)
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Please only tell me if it won't make me want to cry.AHB wrote:does anyone want to know? (NB - DRT who cannot attend might be given a different answer to TLW, who is attending.)
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Since you asked so nicely I will tell you only if you promise not to tell anyone else. <<whispers "Royal Oporto 1985" in his ear>>DRT wrote:Please only tell me if it won't make me want to cry.AHB wrote:does anyone want to know? (NB - DRT who cannot attend might be given a different answer to TLW, who is attending.)
There, does that make you feel better?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I promise not to tell anyone. {snigger}
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
And I have a backup plan in case I can't find a bottle of RO85. I like to be prepared.DRT wrote:I promise not to tell anyone. {snigger}
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Hi,
I cannot make it since I will be flying back from Frankfurt that evening. A horrible one day return business trip...
regards
WS1
I cannot make it since I will be flying back from Frankfurt that evening. A horrible one day return business trip...

regards
WS1
"Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough"
Mark Twain
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I very much look forward to meeting everyone tomorrow evening, and will leave the reservation for six.
Whilst I did mention in the reservation that this is with The Port Forum, I did not mention that we might need up to 36 glasses (questionable as to whether my wife will drink much or will simply look at me with a profoundly bemused expression......).
Thus, I will let them know that we may need quite a few glasses.
Until tomorrow.
Cheers
TLW
Whilst I did mention in the reservation that this is with The Port Forum, I did not mention that we might need up to 36 glasses (questionable as to whether my wife will drink much or will simply look at me with a profoundly bemused expression......).
Thus, I will let them know that we may need quite a few glasses.
Until tomorrow.
Cheers
TLW
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
!or both.TLW wrote:questionable as to whether my wife will drink much or will simply look at me with a profoundly bemused expression
We sometimes request 40ish, and sometimes 300ish. They’ll be able to cope.TLW wrote:Thus, I will let them know that we may need quite a few glasses.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I'm game.
If you haven't already done so, I could supply a Dow '66 from my cellar for the same money..I will probably just go for the 94 Dow from their list.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Placemats: blind or sighted?
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I will bring mine in tinfoil.
If space permits, i would bring a friend.
If space permits, i would bring a friend.
Rob C.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Does friend have known initials? And presumed right-handed unless otherwise specified.RAYC wrote:I will bring mine in tinfoil.
If space permits, i would bring a friend.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
KZZM - right handed - thanksjdaw1 wrote:Does friend have known initials? And presumed right-handed unless otherwise specified.RAYC wrote:I will bring mine in tinfoil.
If space permits, i would bring a friend.
Rob C.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Quite excellent initials.RAYC wrote:KZZM - right handed - thanksjdaw1 wrote:Does friend have known initials? And presumed right-handed unless otherwise specified.RAYC wrote:I will bring mine in tinfoil.
If space permits, i would bring a friend.
Daniel J.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Presumably an office colleague, whose ‟KM” initials had already been bagsied by somebody more senior.RAYC wrote:KZZM - right handed - thanks
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
In the absence of a pre-existing, more senior KM in the Bung Hole, I prefer to imagine that the middle names both begin with Z.jdaw1 wrote:Presumably an office colleague, whose ‟KM” initials had already been bagsied by somebody more senior.RAYC wrote:KZZM - right handed - thanks
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
First draft of the placemats (and parameters by which made).

I could print, but won’t be there until 7pm.


I could print, but won’t be there until 7pm.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I should arrive about 6pm, but can't print.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I won't foil mine, because it has no label..
..first bottle from a ten bottle stash that I bought two years ago, where I only have the vendor's word for the ID.
If it is what it it was sold as, it is a major vintage and a major shipper that has only had one previous appearance at a TPF event, when it was well received.
..first bottle from a ten bottle stash that I bought two years ago, where I only have the vendor's word for the ID.
If it is what it it was sold as, it is a major vintage and a major shipper that has only had one previous appearance at a TPF event, when it was well received.
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Thank you.RAYC wrote:Happy to print (and just have)
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Yes and no. KZM would be sort of correct outside the office (we think HR were just having fun when adding the second "Z"), though only as the "americanised" translation of his real name (马致远) which is not really capable of reduction to initials in original language.jdaw1 wrote:Presumably an office colleague, whose ‟KM” initials had already been bagsied by somebody more senior.RAYC wrote:KZZM - right handed - thanks
Does that work on placemats...?!
Rob C.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I think you might have opened a can of worms.RAYC wrote:马致远!
Does that work on placemats...?!
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
This is starting to look very interesting but, unfortunately, I am still confined to barracks so cannot join you in person.
However, in order to mitigate my disappointment I intend opening "a nice bottle of vintage port" and sipping my way through it* at the same time you are enjoying whatever turns up at The Bunghole.
I am happy to provide clues as the evening progresses so that my bottle can be included in the blind guessing, perhaps as a tiebreaker in the event that everyone scores the usual near-zero points.
* subject to life coach permission
However, in order to mitigate my disappointment I intend opening "a nice bottle of vintage port" and sipping my way through it* at the same time you are enjoying whatever turns up at The Bunghole.
I am happy to provide clues as the evening progresses so that my bottle can be included in the blind guessing, perhaps as a tiebreaker in the event that everyone scores the usual near-zero points.
* subject to life coach permission
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
new parameters please!DRT wrote:I think you might have opened a can of worms.RAYC wrote:马致远!
Does that work on placemats...?!
Daniel J.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
If the offer is still good, I would very much like to take you up on it!uncle tom wrote:I'm game.
If you haven't already done so, I could supply a Dow '66 from my cellar for the same money..I will probably just go for the 94 Dow from their list.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Why not blind - matches at least me ratherr well.jdaw1 wrote:Placemats: blind or sighted?
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I have sent Tom a text in case he doesn't see thisTLW wrote:If the offer is still good, I would very much like to take you up on it!uncle tom wrote:I'm game.
If you haven't already done so, I could supply a Dow '66 from my cellar for the same money..I will probably just go for the 94 Dow from their list.

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Will grab a bottle and double decant it for you.If the offer is still good, I would very much like to take you up on it!
My bottle just decanted - ID confirmed - looking good!
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Sigh. For some years the manual has had a ¶:djewesbury wrote:new parameters please!DRT wrote:I think you might have opened a can of worms.RAYC wrote:马致远!
Does that work on placemats...?!
The program was designed for left-to-right script, and the alphabets successfully used have been Roman (mostly), Greek (occasionally), and Cyrillic (rarely). Users with knowledge of PostScript who are able to assist with testing in other scripts including right-to-left are invited to contact the the author, perhaps after reading this request for assistance rendering ‟æ³‰åæ®µ”.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Excellent. Tonight is your chance to find out if KZZM has any knowledge of Postscript!jdaw1 wrote:Sigh. For some years the manual has had a ¶:djewesbury wrote:new parameters please!DRT wrote:I think you might have opened a can of worms.RAYC wrote:马致远!
Does that work on placemats...?!The program was designed for left-to-right script, and the alphabets successfully used have been Roman (mostly), Greek (occasionally), and Cyrillic (rarely). Users with knowledge of PostScript who are able to assist with testing in other scripts including right-to-left are invited to contact the the author, perhaps after reading this request for assistance rendering ‟æ³‰åæ®µ”.
Daniel J.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
My wife, YM (Why me?) I often think, will also be joining, but will probably just taste from my glasses.
I will contact the Bunghole to let them know that it will probably be seven in the end.
See everyone there.
I will contact the Bunghole to let them know that it will probably be seven in the end.
See everyone there.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Oops: wrong date on placemats.
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
D66 decanted
I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I shall be sober and you will still be ugly - W.S. Churchill
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Mine decanted at 2pm.
Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
Mine at 3pm - I've started 

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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
And we have started too
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday, October 8th, London, "Bring a bottle to share"
A package was just delivered to my house containing four samples marked G63, S67, D83, "G50 VC07". I am confused by the latter, but thank you to the very kind gentlemen who sent these to me. 

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: Tuesday, October 8th, London, "Bring a bottle to share"
I have some bad news. Not all is as was labelled...DRT wrote:...G63, S67, D83, "G50 VC07"...
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: Tuesday, October 8th, London, "Bring a bottle to share"
So what is the game? Am I to guess and post here? Are any of the labels relevant?AHB wrote:I have some bad news. Not all is as was labelled...DRT wrote:...G63, S67, D83, "G50 VC07"...
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: Wednesday 2nd October in London
I don't think there is a game. I think it was a consequence of filling sample bottles late at night after having consumed a little bit of Port. No-one else consumed Graham 1963 on Wednesday. As much as we miss you, we would not send you our only 60ml sample of that fine nectar.
If you care to think of it as a game, think of it as a blind sample tasting challenge - tell us what you think is in each of the sample bottles before we post a review thread.
If you care to think of it as a game, think of it as a blind sample tasting challenge - tell us what you think is in each of the sample bottles before we post a review thread.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!