1970 Dow
1970 Dow
Decanted at 3pm to accompany this tasting but being consumed at a different location.
Firstly, an unusual feature. The foil capsule looked normal but when it was removed it revealed a dry broken surface on the top of the cork that was 2mm to 5mm below the top of the bottle.
When removed the cork proved to be only half a cork. The side walls were dry and of normal appearance and the bottom surface appropriately stained for a VP of this age. Perhaps the top half of the cork broke off whilst being hammered into the bottle? Or was it removed at some point in the past and the bottom half re-inserted? Is it a fake?
This made me look at the label more closely. It turns out to be a convincing laser-printed facsimile of an original that has subsequently been wet and faded. Intentionally? Who knows.
Decanting went well. The wine was the colour I expected it to be and almost all of the well-formed crust stayed in the bottle.
Now for a quality assurance sample.
The nose was muted and rather dull with a small amount of bottle stink. Very thick and viscous in the mouth with sweet black cherry and a lovely dark chocolate bite. There is a strange dry medicinal note on the end of the mid-palate but then a fabulous long and deliciously sweet finish. The strangeness might be the remnants of some unresolved tannins or spirit but are not enough to spoil the enjoyment of the wine.
Quite splendid, but what is it and is it really what I thought it was?
More to follow.
Firstly, an unusual feature. The foil capsule looked normal but when it was removed it revealed a dry broken surface on the top of the cork that was 2mm to 5mm below the top of the bottle.
When removed the cork proved to be only half a cork. The side walls were dry and of normal appearance and the bottom surface appropriately stained for a VP of this age. Perhaps the top half of the cork broke off whilst being hammered into the bottle? Or was it removed at some point in the past and the bottom half re-inserted? Is it a fake?
This made me look at the label more closely. It turns out to be a convincing laser-printed facsimile of an original that has subsequently been wet and faded. Intentionally? Who knows.
Decanting went well. The wine was the colour I expected it to be and almost all of the well-formed crust stayed in the bottle.
Now for a quality assurance sample.
The nose was muted and rather dull with a small amount of bottle stink. Very thick and viscous in the mouth with sweet black cherry and a lovely dark chocolate bite. There is a strange dry medicinal note on the end of the mid-palate but then a fabulous long and deliciously sweet finish. The strangeness might be the remnants of some unresolved tannins or spirit but are not enough to spoil the enjoyment of the wine.
Quite splendid, but what is it and is it really what I thought it was?
More to follow.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
On DRT’s behalf I have asked the obvious question in One quiz at a time.
Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
Thank you.
D+3 Hours
The nose has opened up and is now of red cherry and vanilla. Very similar mouth-feel and flavours as before, perhaps a bit sweeter and the medicinal flavour is now more pronounced and distracting. There is now strawberry in the finish, which remains long and delicious. The overall profile of this wine is as expected, but some of the flavours are not typical.
D+3 Hours
The nose has opened up and is now of red cherry and vanilla. Very similar mouth-feel and flavours as before, perhaps a bit sweeter and the medicinal flavour is now more pronounced and distracting. There is now strawberry in the finish, which remains long and delicious. The overall profile of this wine is as expected, but some of the flavours are not typical.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
The medicinal flavour seems to be evolving into mint, perhaps eucalyptus.
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
The nose now has more power, plummy fruit coming through. Bigger and bolder in the mouth with tannin coming to the fore. Dryness on the cheeks with lovely sweet cherry and mint on the palate. Grade A.
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
I guess this to be Graham 1970
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
Guess posted in appropriate place.AHB wrote:I guess this to be Graham 1970
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Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
The capsule, cork and label...
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Re: ???? ? Vintage Port
Possibly the laser printed label is just a case of a rather nerdy port owner wanting to keep his D70 looking nice?
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Can't imagine anyone would be geeky enough to do that!djewesbury wrote:Possibly the laser printed label is just a case of a rather nerdy port owner wanting to keep his D70 looking nice?

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no, quite..DRT wrote:Can't imagine anyone would be geeky enough to do that!djewesbury wrote:Possibly the laser printed label is just a case of a rather nerdy port owner wanting to keep his D70 looking nice?
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Re: 1970 Dow
This bottle is rapidly developing a major problem. 

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Oh no! International crisis, Level II!
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Re: 1970 Dow
Go on.... I fear the worst.DRT wrote:This bottle is rapidly developing a major problem.
Re: 1970 Dow
The worst imaginable outcome is imminent. A crisis of international proportions is upon us.LGTrotter wrote:Go on.... I fear the worst.
What to do?
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There is only one thing to do - contact your personal trainer for advice.DRT wrote:The worst imaginable outcome is imminent. A crisis of international proportions is upon us.LGTrotter wrote:Go on.... I fear the worst.
What to do?
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Re: 1970 Dow
Open another?
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could always crack open a Morgan 91...LGTrotter wrote:Open another?
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Re: 1970 Dow
djewesbury wrote:contact your personal trainer for advice.

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Re: 1970 Dow
All at Seckfords.djewesbury wrote:could always crack open a Morgan 91...LGTrotter wrote:Open another?
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Re: 1970 Dow
Morgan 91? Surely the quality of the wines should increase.
Re: 1970 Dow
But another what?LGTrotter wrote:Open another?
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Availability is what counts. How good do you think the bottle needs to be when you've already drunk one bottle on your own?LGTrotter wrote:Morgan 91? Surely the quality of the wines should increase.
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ah. Availability is indeed what counts...LGTrotter wrote:Morgan 91? Surely the quality of the wines should increase.
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Re: 1970 Dow
I am drinking the remains of Tesco own Grenache, to be followed by the remains of a Smith Woodhouse Madela 96 and if all else fails a steady supply of 94 tesco.
I am trying to say; don't be proud, there must be something in the cupboard.
I am trying to say; don't be proud, there must be something in the cupboard.
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Re: 1970 Dow
And what was that cork all about, it looked odd, almost a bit new and why would anyone put half a cork in?
Re: 1970 Dow
Such questions are best asked at a different time of day.LGTrotter wrote:And what was that cork all about, it looked odd, almost a bit new and why would anyone put half a cork in?
The answer we were all looking for is Talisker 10 yr old.
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An excellent progression. I will later have a glass or two of the Scotch Malt Whisky Soc bottling that I'm currently working through. After finishing this bottle of Spanish moscatel.DRT wrote:LGTrotter wrote:The answer we were all looking for is Talisker 10 yr old.
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Huzzah!DRT wrote:The answer we were all looking for is Talisker 10 yr old.
I have a feeling we shall shortly be moved to 'meaningless drivel'.
I have to go and listen to my wife practice a reading. Less than one and a half hours before she becomes a published writer. Squee! as I believe they say on twitter.
Re: 1970 Dow
Order the 1994 from the menu?DRT wrote:The worst imaginable outcome is imminent. A crisis of international proportions is upon us.LGTrotter wrote:Go on.... I fear the worst.
What to do?
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The man is at home. Derek has taken to participating in offlines from home...Glenn E. wrote:Order the 1994 from the menu?DRT wrote:The worst imaginable outcome is imminent. A crisis of international proportions is upon us.LGTrotter wrote:Go on.... I fear the worst.
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Glenn E. wrote:Order the 1994 from the menu?
Unfortunately home (being the "different location") does not have a menu that includes Dow 1994DRT wrote:Decanted at 3pm to accompany this tasting but being consumed at a different location.

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Re: 1970 Dow
On the instructions of a surgeon. Not of my own choosing.djewesbury wrote:The man is at home. Derek has taken to participating in offlines from home...
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How long does your post-op rehab take? I'm glad you at least have good medicine.DRT wrote:On the instructions of a surgeon. Not of my own choosing.djewesbury wrote:The man is at home. Derek has taken to participating in offlines from home...
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Shackles off on Sunday - heading for London with Mrs - lunch with JDAW & Mrs on Monday - Bunghole Tuesday - "Late Meeting" with colleagues Wednesday - 2 nights off - Big Weekend.djewesbury wrote:How long does your post-op rehab take? I'm glad you at least have good medicine.DRT wrote:On the instructions of a surgeon. Not of my own choosing.djewesbury wrote:The man is at home. Derek has taken to participating in offlines from home...
Sympathy not necessary

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DRT wrote:Sympathy not necessary

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