27 Nov 2013, The Bung Hole, 83@30

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:10 Mon 16 Sep 2013

We are going to drink some 1983 vintage ports, 30 years after they were harvested.

Meet in the Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, WC1V 6DT (tel:0207 831 8365) at a time around 6pm. (map)

In so far [bringing]:

DJ [Wine Society Exhibition]
RAB [Croft Roeda]
CMAG [Ni]
JDAW [ChAA + K]
CPR [W]
RLC [OBV]
IDJ [G]
AJH [D]
DRT [GC]
THRA [F]
AHB [T]
RC [SW]

uncle tom wrote:This post originally started a new thread but was subsequently merged with a previous thread at the request of djewesbury.

The year is three parts gone and we have a vintage anniversary year uncelebrated.

How about a 1983 horizontal, maybe in late November?

I have sixteen to draw on, namely:

British Association
Calem
Cockburn
Dow
Feuerheerd
Fonseca
Gould Campbell
Graham
Kopke
Noval Nacional
Offley Boa Vista
Quarles Harris
Royal Oporto
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

- Thoughts?

Original post: Is anyone interested in trying to stage our postponed Cálem vertical on either the 27th or 29th Nov? This would be either the day before or the day after the Berry Bros port walk. My birthday is the 23rd; it would be nice to have a get together. I can supply either 83 or 85 from my stash procured via Tom (as I suppose can many others), but if either of these dates is agreeable we can copy over what everyone pledged from the earlier Cá thread.

It would seem imperative that WS is there. If he is unable to make it I suggest we change the theme to 'Bring a Bottle, Blind'

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:30 Mon 16 Sep 2013

I’m probably in, though if Cálem I’ll need to adopt or share costs.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 20:15 Mon 16 Sep 2013

I can make 27th, but not 29th. If a Calem vertical I will have to adopt if Wolfgang is willing and able to share.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 12:51 Thu 19 Sep 2013

Hi,

we can recycle the Calem vertical idea; no problem. Since I am very busy which will not change until the end of the year I cannot acertain my attendance. But the date should be the 27th of November. With regards to any further details (sharing cost, adopting etc.) about the tasting I would suggest to wait until we know how many people we will be.
E.g. I would not think we should to a vertical if we are only 6 people.

regards

WS1

Post by **DRT** » 13:37 Thu 19 Sep 2013

Wolfgang,

I think the reality of the situation is that we will only ever manage to put together a Calem vertical if you are willing to let people adopt bottles, so it doesn't make sense to plan it on a date that you cannot commit to.

Unless anyone other than Wolfgang has miraculously collected six or more mature vintages of Calem I would suggest we park this idea until next year at a time when Wolfgang can definitely join us.

Post by **jdaw1** » 17:31 Thu 19 Sep 2013

Wolfgang: when will you know whether you can join us? If you will know by early November, that is early enough. But if you won't know until the day, then we definitely need a new theme.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:52 Thu 19 Sep 2013

Sorry, hadn't intended to complicate matters. First post updated. I should have re-read the posts in Andy V's tasting thread.. Whatever comes to pass is good.

I have also updated the date, to more concretely propose the 27th. The 29th might now be used for other purposes..

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 05:47 Fri 20 Sep 2013

Hi,

I should know by early November. With parking it to next year I am also fine.

Leave it to you guys.

regards

WS1

Post by **PhilW** » 14:45 Fri 20 Sep 2013

Unable to make the 27th, but will see you on the 28th.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 09:58 Fri 04 Oct 2013

This post originally started a new thread but was subsequently merged with a previous thread at the request of djewesbury.

The year is three parts gone and we have a vintage anniversary year uncelebrated.

How about a 1983 horizontal, maybe in late November?

I have sixteen to draw on, namely:

British Association
Calem
Cockburn
Dow
Feuerheerd
Fonseca
Gould Campbell
Graham
Kopke
Noval Nacional
Offley Boa Vista
Quarles Harris
Royal Oporto
Smith Woodhouse
Taylor
Warre

- Thoughts?

Post by **DRT** » 10:04 Fri 04 Oct 2013

I'm in.

I have Real Vinicola 1983, seven bottles of which are available for this tasting for £0. Yes, they are that good.

I don't think I have any other 1983's but happy to adopt if that is possible.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 10:08 Fri 04 Oct 2013

We may also be able to get a Niepoort from Dirk - I know he has stock.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:14 Fri 04 Oct 2013

Late November you say? Maybe we should combine our efforts.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:39 Fri 04 Oct 2013

I could add Ramos Pinto 1983 to the line-up.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 14:54 Fri 04 Oct 2013

AHB wrote:I could add Ramos Pinto 1983 to the line-up.

You should. RP83 is very good. Off the top of my head I can't remember for sure, but it was either POTN or my personal POTN at the FTLOP 1983 retrospective.

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:42 Fri 04 Oct 2013

Yes please.

A draft of the placemats will appear here later.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 16:20 Fri 04 Oct 2013

good idea. Also we should try to get a bt of Churchill for this occasion. Last two Wednesday evenings in November look good so far.

regards

WS1

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:58 Fri 04 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:Late November you say? Maybe we should combine our efforts.

WS1 wrote:good idea. Also we should try to get a bt of Churchill for this occasion. Last two Wednesday evenings in November look good so far.

Formal proposal - 27th Nov. All in favour?

Post by **DRT** » 18:04 Fri 04 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:Formal proposal - 27th Nov. All in favour?

DRT is to the right.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:19 Fri 04 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Formal proposal - 27th Nov. All in favour?
DRT is to the right.

(for our non-UK parliamentarians, that's an Aye)

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 21:37 Fri 04 Oct 2013

Great idea. Would love to come, date will work for me.
Pretty sure I have a Niepoort83 and Warre. Will check in the morning, if there is a spare place once the usual suspects have replied would love to bring a port loving guest.
Many thanks

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 01:05 Sat 05 Oct 2013

OK, I suggest an admin do something with a magic wand that would bring the two threads in question into unison... 27th Nov, 83@30.

Post by **DRT** » 08:38 Sat 05 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:OK, I suggest an admin do something with a magic wand that would bring the two threads in question into unison... 27th Nov, 83@30.

I waved the Admin wand.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:08 Sat 05 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:OK, I suggest an admin do something with a magic wand that would bring the two threads in question into unison... 27th Nov, 83@30.
I waved the Admin wand.

Thank you.

Tom, for the sake of convenience and me being able to bring something, perhaps you can bring a Cá83 from me?

I also have a guest (RB).

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:31 Sat 05 Oct 2013

I'll call the Bung Hole on Monday.

Christopher, what are the initials of your guest?

Post by **PhilW** » 11:54 Sat 05 Oct 2013

Nice idea Tom.

Re: date, unfortunately my previous response stands for 27th Nov - two nights midweek in London in the same week is unlikely to be viable due to work, and am already hotel-booked for the BBR tasting the following evening. Possible last-minute if work allows and there is still a spot, but assume I am unlikely to be able to make it.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:45 Sat 05 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:Christopher, what are the initials of your guest?

Am I relieved of placemat duties for this tasting?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:47 Sat 05 Oct 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Christopher, what are the initials of your guest?
Am I relieved of placemat duties for this tasting?

Happy to oblige.

Post by **DRT** » 16:53 Sat 05 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Christopher, what are the initials of your guest?
Am I relieved of placemat duties for this tasting?
Happy to oblige.

It's like Musafa watching Simba kill his first antelope

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:54 Sat 05 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Christopher, what are the initials of your guest?
Am I relieved of placemat duties for this tasting?
Happy to oblige.
It's like Musafa watching Simba kill his first antelope

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CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 11:18 Thu 17 Oct 2013

Hi - If there is room I would like to join, this sounds like a fun evening for my 2nd offline!

I can't add anything to the line up but very happy to adopt or bring a Graham or Fonseca

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:32 Thu 17 Oct 2013

You're welcome to join us Charles. Looking forward to meeting you!

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:52 Thu 17 Oct 2013

AHB wrote:I can make 27th, but not 29th. If a Calem vertical I will have to adopt if Wolfgang is willing and able to share.

And now I can't make the 27th - Christmas shopping, unfortunately. The trade I have had to make to be able to attend BBR the following day.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:05 Thu 17 Oct 2013

AHB wrote:
AHB wrote:I can make 27th, but not 29th. If a Calem vertical I will have to adopt if Wolfgang is willing and able to share.
And now I can't make the 27th - Christmas shopping, unfortunately. The trade I have had to make to be able to attend BBR the following day.

I well understand these sensitivities. We will miss you, but see you the next night.

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:40 Thu 17 Oct 2013

AHB wrote:And now I can't make the 27th - Christmas shopping, unfortunately. The trade I have had to make to be able to attend BBR the following day.

Apologies.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 13:48 Thu 17 Oct 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:And now I can't make the 27th - Christmas shopping, unfortunately. The trade I have had to make to be able to attend BBR the following day.
Apologies.

Do you mean you are also making apologies? Or are you responsible for Alex's Christmas shopping commitments? What did you ask Santa for...?

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:51 Thu 17 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:Or are you responsible for Alex's Christmas shopping commitments? What did you ask Santa for...?

Indirectly. And P&P&Q (Port and Peace and Quiet).

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 14:26 Thu 17 Oct 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
AHB wrote:And now I can't make the 27th - Christmas shopping, unfortunately. The trade I have had to make to be able to attend BBR the following day.
Apologies.

Que sera.

Post by **DRT** » 14:48 Thu 17 Oct 2013

There is a conspiracy afoot. I have just been informed by my other half that I have port tasting events on both 27th and 28th November. We are all doomed.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 15:35 Thu 17 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:There is a conspiracy afoot. I have just been informed by my other half that I have port tasting events on both 27th and 28th November. We are all doomed.

Next thing you know you'll be Christmas shopping on both days.

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:39 Thu 17 Oct 2013

If wanted, I could bring a Churchill Agua Alta 1983, that for some years was stored only mediumly well. So I’ll also adopt.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 12:28 Sun 20 Oct 2013

Oscar and Christopher Pfaff did a Horizontal in the Douro at Quevedo in September.

The lineup was:

Churchill
Kopke
Cockburn
Gould Campbell
Grahams
Borges
Taylor
Messias
Ramos PInto
Warre
Quarles Harris
RCV
Fonseca
Niepoort
Dow

WotN was Gould Campbell, followed by Niepoort and Taylors. The Symingtons did very well throughout for not being a spectacular Vintage, Niepoort and Ramos Pinto, too.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:19 Mon 21 Oct 2013

TBH booked. (Meeting room.)

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:58 Mon 21 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:(Meeting room.)

The big room is the Function Room. The little room is The Office.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 10:04 Mon 21 Oct 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:(Meeting room.)
The big room is the Function Room. The little room is The Office.

The Function Room (he knew which I meant).

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:34 Mon 21 Oct 2013

Some questions relating to my production of the placemats:

Christopher - initials of your +1 please

Tom - are you going to try and secure the Niepoort you mentioned above?

WHO is going to bring WHAT; and how many people are hoping to adopt from Tom?

I will bring a Cálem (which is currently in Tom's keeping) and RAB is bringing Croft Quinta do Roeda.

Post by **DRT** » 15:53 Mon 21 Oct 2013

I am bringing a magnum of What.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:03 Mon 21 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:I am bringing a magnum of What.

Wrong night!

Post by **DRT** » 16:12 Mon 21 Oct 2013

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:I am bringing a magnum of What.
Wrong night!

Oops!

The only 1983 I have is Real Vinicola. I will bring that and then buy in for a real bottle of something.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:02 Mon 21 Oct 2013

DRT wrote:The only 1983 I have is Real Vinicola. I will bring that and then buy in for a real bottle of something.

In this tasting note of [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=5559]1983 Real Vinicola (Royal Oporto) VP[/url], DRT wrote:£13 x 9 is a lot of money to spend on vomit.

Well, err, thank you I suppose. The other bottle was a good idea.