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DRT wrote:But I have a confession to make. Tonight I went down to the hotel bar at 10pm and ordered a drink. I then, without thinking it through properly, asked the barman to change the TV channel from the football to the cricket. Perhaps JDAW has a point.
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DRT wrote:But I have a confession to make. Tonight I went down to the hotel bar at 10pm and ordered a drink. I then, without thinking it through properly, asked the barman to change the TV channel from the football to the cricket. Perhaps JDAW has a point.
Perhaps, true to your Scottish roots, you were trying to make yourself a bit more miserable.
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It is cricket on the radio though. Really meaningless dull cricket.
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LGTrotter wrote:Perhaps, true to your Scottish roots, you were trying to make yourself a bit more miserable.
A few days ago a disillusioned colleague asked me "how do you manage to not be p1$$ed off by what's going on here?". My answer was "I started out as a miserable ****, so everything that happens is better than I expected."
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I didn't tune in to listen to a couple of Australians nattering away with no atmos except an occasional bit of metal-bashing. Where are the pros?
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The first time that I saw Sachin play was at Lord's in July 02. He made 16. More memorable about that day was running up St. John's Wood Road looking for charity shops in which to buy alternative clothing for the girl I was going out with at the time, an Irish redhead who was dying of heatstroke and wearing a very heavy pair of jeans. Sometimes I look back and wonder how I got myself into certain situations.
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djewesbury wrote:The first time that I saw Sachin play was at Lord's in July 02. He made 16.
He made 14.
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jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:The first time that I saw Sachin play was at Lord's in July 02. He made 16.
He made 14.
Incorrect. The link you posted is to the ODI. This was a Test Match. Is it your factchecker's day off?

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Ignore JDAW. Correct link.
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Taunton didn't see much of him either.

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Sackcloth and ashes. :oops:
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jdaw1 wrote:Sackcloth and ashes. :oops:
Quite ordinary for mere mortals, but we expect more of you.
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LGTrotter wrote:Taunton didn't see much of him either.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/j ... -tendulkar
I remember that. In fact the little master sometimes had a torrid time of it on English tours.. I don't think I ever saw him score even a 50.
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I wonder that this part of the thread hasn't been moved on the grounds that it is cricket.
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LGTrotter wrote:I wonder that this part of the thread hasn't been moved on the grounds that it is cricket.
Very true.

Did anyone watch the England v All Blacks game today. An excellent game of ruggers - full commitment from both teams. Splendid.
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I find it intriguing that the two references made in this thread in reaction to the ending of the career of the highest-scoring cricketer of all time focussed on the occasions he scored only a few runs. Not in an obviously critical way but, some might think, rather dismissively.

What is it about the British that the rest of the world hates so much?
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DRT wrote:I find it intriguing that the two references made in this thread in reaction to the ending of the career of the highest-scoring cricketer of all time focussed on the occasions he scored only a few runs. Not in an obviously critical way but, some might think, rather dismissively.

What is it about the British that the rest of the world hates so much?
Not at all. But nor do we think he's a god. As millions of Indians do. We evaluate him unsentimentally as a fine cricketer who sometimes seemed to have a weakness playing in England. That is a significant part of his career. It wasn't just once or twice - he often failed to score here, on his last tour as on many others.
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And his high scoring record needs to be out into the context of his average: Bradman didn't play nearly as many matches as Tendulkar but ended with an average of 99.97.
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And Englishmen often accuse Scotsmen of having a chip on their shoulder. Interesting.

Are you suggesting that millions of people thinking that one of their sportsmen is god-like when they quite obviously are not is in some way limited to countries outside England?
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DRT wrote:And Englishmen often accuse Scotsmen of having a chip on their shoulder. Interesting.

Are you suggesting that millions of people thinking that one of their sportsmen is god-like when they quite obviously are not is in some way limited to countries outside England?
Are you suggesting that anyone thinks Wayne Rooney is a god?
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1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
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djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:And Englishmen often accuse Scotsmen of having a chip on their shoulder. Interesting.

Are you suggesting that millions of people thinking that one of their sportsmen is god-like when they quite obviously are not is in some way limited to countries outside England?
Are you suggesting that anyone thinks Wayne Rooney is a god?
Unfortunately, yes. But not the Beckhamites, or the Bothamites, or the Mooreites. None of those like the Rooneyites and think they are all doomed to hell.
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LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
One of those is very wrong.
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DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
One of those is very wrong.
Do you think he will ever speak to me again?
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LGTrotter wrote:
DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
One of those is very wrong.
Do you think he will ever speak to me again?
I wouldn't.
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DRT wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:1)Daniel is not an Englishman.
2)Sachin is a god.
3)Indians make better English gentlemen than the English ever did.
One of those is very wrong.
Fortunately, the bit of me that's not English is, via my mother, Indian. So what he took with one hand, he gave with the other.
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You're right, I must write and apologise to Sachin.
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djewesbury wrote:the bit of me that's not English is, via my mother, Indian.
This needs to be tested before we accept it.

I have no reason to doubt that that statement is true other than the fact I know you sometime say things for comedic effect. Fez up. Half Indian? True or false?
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DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
True of DJ.
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jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
True of DJ.
Indeed. In India, I am a god.
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djewesbury wrote:
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DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
True of DJ.
Indeed. In India, I am a god.
But have you ever scored 16 in England?
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AHB wrote:
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DRT wrote:Half Indian? True or false?
True of DJ.
Indeed. In India, I am a god.
But have you ever scored 16 in England?
Yes. I forget my high score but it was above 16. In fact I briefly attended the Alf Gover Cricket School in Wandsworth, around the corner from where my father now lives; I think I went with my school friend Ram Patel. But by secondary school, ours being a rugby school, and my eyesight forbidding me to advance at that game, I never advanced beyond the E team. If you're no good at rugby, after all, it obviously follows that there's no point evaluating your skill in cricket.

Mark Butcher was in the year above me. Don't remember him being much cop at rugby. I could be wrong.
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Ashes starts tonight. Just saying.

More irritatingly my brother-in-law is going to all five days of the opening test for flumpence (compared to what you would pay over here).
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Is anyone else debating a late nightcap and a little TMS around midnight tonight?!
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LGTrotter wrote:Ashes starts tonight. Just saying.

More irritatingly my brother-in-law is going to all five days of the opening test for flumpence (compared to what you would pay over here).
The cheapest Test Match I ever went to: Eng v Pak in Lahore at the Gadaffi Stadium. You could only buy a ticket for all 5 days. It was US$5 or thereabouts. Once I was in, a load of teenagers came to talk to me, to practise their English. Mostly they were all very nice (and their English very good) but one was very politely insistent, in a disturbingly rational manner, on what a good thing al Qaeda were, which was depressing. This was (I think) 2005 or 2006. Then a policeman came over and told them to stop pestering me and asked where I was from and did I like Birmingham, as his brother lived there. Every so often he barked a command at the school kids and one of them ran off to get me an ice cream. England were thrashed. I think Collingwood made a score.
benread wrote:Is anyone else debating a late nightcap and a little TMS around midnight tonight?!
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benread wrote:Is anyone else debating a late nightcap and a little TMS around midnight tonight?!
I shall probably do the opposite and go to bed early but aim to wake about 5am to catch the last couple of hours. Is scheduled play 11pm to 7am, UK time?
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12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.

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benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
+1, just checked Cricinfo.
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benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
+1, just checked Cricinfo.
Thanks gents, means I won't start shouting at the radio for a while yet.
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AHB wrote:
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benread wrote:12am to 7 am I think. 40 minutes for lunch and 20 for tea. Start is definitely 12am.
+1, just checked Cricinfo.
Thanks gents, means I won't start shouting at the radio for a while yet.
Time to prepare that nightcap too!
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.. still no team news...
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I'm sat with phone, tablet and sky sports news waiting. Twitter feed running too!

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benread wrote:I'm sat with phone, tablet and sky sports news waiting. Twitter feed running too!

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Aggers says Tremlett and Prior...
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Got that too! Agger's says Tremlett and Prior both play. (Twitter)

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My glass of Malt is by my side. The Foster's is on ice. The barbie is ready to be fired-up.

First novice question: Why does KP play for England and not his native South Africa?
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KP qualified by virtue of his English mother and residency. A quota system in Cricket South Africa denied him the opportunity there. Didn't he explain when you met last year?!

And he is not alone in English team!

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DRT wrote:My glass of Malt is by my side. The Foster's is on ice. The barbie is ready to be fired-up.

First novice question: Why does KP play for England and not his native South Africa?
And you didn't even take the opportunity to refer to it as rounders. C'mon Scotland!
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benread wrote:Didn't he explain when you met last year?!
No. He didn't speak. I can only assume that he was star-struck.
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benread wrote:A quota system in Cricket South Africa denied him the opportunity there.
Does that mean "KP wasn't good enough to qualify for the section of the quota for which he was ethnically eligible."?
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