27 Nov 2013, The Bung Hole, 83@30

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:35 Fri 22 Nov 2013

AHB wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:
AHB wrote:So, if there's still space, I am in. Just need to look at the list of who is bringing what and see whether I need to adopt from Tom or if I have something at home that isn't already represented.
Thanks Wolfgang.

Tom - could I adopt please. I'd like you to add the Cockburn to the list of bottles being adopted by the group. I still hope to find a good one of these one day, but don't decant it before travelling to the Bung Hole. I'll filter it when it arrives and hope the lack of exposure to the air holds back the development of any TCA. Thanks.

Also, I would vote against including the 1983 Nacional. While fun to try, it is not good value for money.
Are you suggesting we replace Taylor with Cockburn?
No. You copied and pasted before I edited to reflect Wolfgang's post.

Apologies. All is well with the world. Except I'm listening to over 29 (the 5-ball over) and KP will be out in just a few balls' time.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:15 Fri 22 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:So I’ve had NN83 thrice: one ‟off bottle”, one ‟not good”, the best ‟Utterly unremarkable”.

Very interesting. I never would have guessed.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:40 Fri 22 Nov 2013

Placemat updated: CMAG's guest is RC.

PDF here.

Post by **DRT** » 23:21 Fri 22 Nov 2013

I love the placemat. Well done.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:22 Fri 22 Nov 2013

DRT wrote:I love the placemat. Well done.

Why thank you! How nice.

Post by **DRT** » 23:54 Fri 22 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:
DRT wrote:I love the placemat. Well done.
Why thank you! How nice.

I am sure there will be unanimous agreement that it is splendid.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:56 Fri 22 Nov 2013

Very 1980s.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:04 Sat 23 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Very 1980s.

You like it too! Well I learned at the feet of a master after all. And of course the best bit of learning is when you have to move away from your teacher and strike out, make your own way...

Post by **jdaw1** » 00:09 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:make your own way...

As indeed you have. Where I would have used an ellipsis (“…”), you have used three dots (‟...”).

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:10 Sat 23 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:make your own way...
As indeed you have. Where I would have used an ellipsis (“…”), you have used three dots (‟...”).

Inferior software. My dots are usually auto-ellipsised.

Post by **jdaw1** » 00:13 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:Inferior software.

A great pupil blames his tools.

Post by **PhilW** » 11:25 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:Inferior software.

Watch out, or one of the admins will suggest you use a _Mac

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:26 Sat 23 Nov 2013

PhilW wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Inferior software.
Watch out, or one of the admins will suggest you use a _Mac

Ha. I have used a Mac for over 20 years. Too late for me now.. (And before that, obviously, it was a ZX Spectrum..)

Post by **PhilW** » 11:35 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:Ha. I have used a Mac for over 20 years. Too late for me now.. (And before that, obviously, it was a ZX Spectrum..)

In April 2011 the results of a survey on this very topic, conducted by Hunch asked users to identify themselves as a Mac or PC person, and then questioned them about a number of self-identifying factors. The results were comically stereotypical. Among the findings were that Mac users were more likely to be liberal, eat hummus and read The New York Times. PC users, on the other hand, were more conservative, had a better grasp on mathematical concepts, and, unlike their Mac counterparts, would rather ride a Harley than a Vespa [source: [source: Hunch].

Nuff said, you hummus-eating Vespa rider!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:40 Sat 23 Nov 2013

My Vespa runs on hummus.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 12:23 Sat 23 Nov 2013

In April 2011 the results of a survey on this very topic, conducted by Hunch asked users to identify themselves as a Mac or PC person, and then questioned them about a number of self-identifying factors. The results were comically stereotypical. Among the findings were that Mac users were more likely to be liberal, eat hummus and read The New York Times. PC users, on the other hand, were more conservative, had a better grasp on mathematical concepts, and, unlike their Mac counterparts, would rather ride a Harley than a Vespa

To those of us who recall the days of steam computing, this comes as little surprise.

PCs were really useless at managing graphics in their early days, so when Macs came along with the ability to efficiently manage images without taking an age to do so, all those of an artistic disposition jumped ship.

And until Mr Gates found his philanthropic side, his shameless pursuit of personal wealth got up the noses of many on the left of the political spectrum.

Why is it though, after all the stratospheric increases in memory and processing capacity in PCs, I still find myself staring at an hourglass for just as long, and having to reboot just as often, as I did 15 years ago?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:19 Sat 23 Nov 2013

uncle tom wrote: the left of the political spectrum.

The ZX Spectrum wasn't as political as that.

uncle tom wrote: Why is it though, after all the stratospheric increases in memory and processing capacity in PCs, I still find myself staring at an hourglass for just as long, and having to reboot just as often, as I did 15 years ago?

This is an essential question. My current laptop is much, much faster than the one I had until last year. I edited long films on that machine; all I do on this one is make PowerPoint documents. And yet it is ten times slower.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 17:21 Sat 23 Nov 2013

DRT wrote:I love the placemat. Well done.

Presuming that it is not being printed on a single sheet of A4 landscape.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:29 Sat 23 Nov 2013

AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:I love the placemat. Well done.
Presuming that it is not being printed on a single sheet of A4 landscape.

No no. A3. Obviously!

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:28 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:
DRT wrote:I love the placemat. Well done.
Presuming that it is not being printed on a single sheet of A4 landscape.
No no. A3. Obviously!

Will you be looking for a volunteer to print? I would be able to print on Tuesday, but may well be late since I will have to commute into London for the tasting.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:35 Sat 23 Nov 2013

AHB wrote:Will you be looking for a volunteer to print? I would be able to print on Tuesday, but may well be late since I will have to commute into London for the tasting.

Good question. My home printer can’t do A3.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:37 Sat 23 Nov 2013

I will bring. Can print at copy shop in Belfast before I leave, nice card and only a few quid.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:42 Sat 23 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:I will bring. Can print at copy shop in Belfast before I leave, nice card and only a few quid.

Would it simplify transport to print in London? Google knows of places in Holborn.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:44 Sat 23 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I will bring. Can print at copy shop in Belfast before I leave, nice card and only a few quid.
Would it simplify transport to print in London? Google knows of places in Holborn.

Prefer to know that they're done...

Post by **DRT** » 23:54 Mon 25 Nov 2013

Gents,

I will be leaving Sheffield at around 3pm and will then be at the mercy of the M1. Please start without me and I will try to get the Real Vinicola to you as soon as humanly possible.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:04 Tue 26 Nov 2013

DRT wrote:Gents,

I will be leaving Sheffield at around 3pm and will then be at the mercy of the M1. Please start without me and I will try to get the Real Vinicola to you as soon as humanly possible.

In return we'll do our level best to keep you some of the bottle you're adopting

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:34 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Standing are Wine Society Exhibition 1983, Roeda 1983 (both from Daniel), and Churchill Agua Alta 1983 (from me).

What decant time would be best?

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:15 Tue 26 Nov 2013

My jury service is running longer than expected, so I may be late tomorrow.

Can people who want adoptions please remind me - will try to get bottles to Cookie to bring down ahead of me..

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:37 Tue 26 Nov 2013

uncle tom wrote:My jury service is running longer than expected, so I may be late tomorrow.

Can people who want adoptions please remind me - will try to get bottles to Cookie to bring down ahead of me..

Adoptions that I am aware of are Taylor, Kopke, Smith Woodhouse and Gould Campbell.

If any of the other bottles put forward are adoptions please post here!

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:59 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Adoptions that I am aware of are Taylor, Kopke, Smith Woodhouse and Gould Campbell

This doesn't appear to include Christopher's guest, but I don't know his initials?

Will have to make a sub for the SW (unless I bring a magnum) as my only 75cL bottles are buried in an owc - have not had a chance to extract them. Propose Feuerheerd.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:05 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Both your questions lead to the same point: Christopher's guest, RC, was adopting the SW.

Do people want Feuerheerd, or a mag of SW (extra cost to be split amongst all)?

Post by **DRT** » 19:34 Tue 26 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:Both your questions lead to the same point: Christopher's guest, RC, was adopting the SW.

Do people want Feuerheerd, or a mag of SW (extra cost to be split amongst all)?

Feuerheerd would be interesting. A mag of SW will be as black as treacle and should be marked "don't open for 20 years". That mark will apply equally now and in 20 years from now.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:37 Tue 26 Nov 2013

*sigh*
Feuerheerd it is then. Placemats will be updated. Abbreviation for Feuerheerd?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:45 Tue 26 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:*sigh*
Feuerheerd it is then. Placemats will be updated. Abbreviation for Feuerheerd?

Got it. Fd.

Tom, the list is Feuerheerd, Gould C, Taylor & Kopke.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 20:11 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Sorted - Cookie has the bottles and will bring down - I will come down as soon as I can, but as my jury will probably be in recess to deliberate from lunchtime tomorrow, I have no idea when I'll be free..

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:46 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Updated placemats.
Bottom row = TFP
next up = SFE-produced ports (inc. Wine Soc Exhibition 83)
next up = SFE
top two rows = assorted

Full pdf here.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:40 Tue 26 Nov 2013

Image doesn’t match PDF.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:41 Tue 26 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Image doesn’t match PDF.

Delete your cache. Image made from PDF.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:42 Tue 26 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Image doesn’t match PDF.
Delete your cache. Image made from PDF.

Ooops my fault. Fixed, thank you.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:43 Tue 26 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Image doesn’t match PDF.
Delete your cache. Image made from PDF.
Ooops my fault. Fixed, thank you.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 08:20 Wed 27 Nov 2013

Houston, we have a problem! Just tried to open and decant the G70 before going into work and no purchase-the seal seemed intact but the cork's obviously dropped into the wine. Bit of bottle stink and so I'm taking no chances and switching to a Ck70, if that's ok-although not much time to stand it beforehand? Appreciate that this will likely mess up the placemats-sorry!

Ian

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 08:34 Wed 27 Nov 2013

idj123 wrote:Houston, we have a problem! Just tried to open and decant the G70 before going into work and no purchase-the seal seemed intact but the cork's obviously dropped into the wine. Bit of bottle stink and so I'm taking no chances and switching to a Ck70, if that's ok-although not much time to stand it beforehand? Appreciate that this will likely mess up the placemats-sorry!

Ian

G70? You mean G83? And presumably Ck83..?
Does anyone have G83 to offer..?
Does anyone have an opinion?

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:17 Wed 27 Nov 2013

idj123 wrote:Houston, we have a problem! Just tried to open and decant the G70 before going into work and no purchase-the seal seemed intact but the cork's obviously dropped into the wine. Bit of bottle stink and so I'm taking no chances and switching to a Ck70, if that's ok-although not much time to stand it beforehand? Appreciate that this will likely mess up the placemats-sorry!

Bring both bottles.

Separately, bringing 1970s to a 1983 Horizontal was not quite the original plan though we could always make space for an extra bottle or few.

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:40 Wed 27 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Standing are Wine Society Exhibition 1983, Roeda 1983 (both from Daniel), and Churchill Agua Alta 1983 (from me).

What decant time would be best?

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djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:42 Wed 27 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Standing are Wine Society Exhibition 1983, Roeda 1983 (both from Daniel), and Churchill Agua Alta 1983 (from me).

What decant time would be best?
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Surprised at your uncertainty. Which among us could possible advise? 6 hours?

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:48 Wed 27 Nov 2013

Two of them are your, and you might know more about their condition (if storage might have been poor, then you might prefer later). Failing a contrary consensus, I was thinking of about 2pm.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 09:51 Wed 27 Nov 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Two of them are your, and you might know more about their condition (if storage might have been poor, then you might prefer later). Failing a contrary consensus, I was thinking of about 2pm.

Wine Society a new release. Roeda from Nickolls, believed recent release. Personally I would err toward a more generous decant by perhaps 2 hours. Your call. Your ChAA has had poor storage so 2pm is probably a good call.

Deleted_User_1 · Post by **Deleted_User_1** » 10:26 Wed 27 Nov 2013

I plan to decant all six bottles around 2.00pm...then I will be in London for around 5.00pm...if anyone would like to join me for a pre-match beer let me know.

Post by **DRT** » 10:50 Wed 27 Nov 2013

There was space in my bottle carrying bag so I have packed two bottles of claret that will or will not be opened with dinner depending on demand.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:40 Wed 27 Nov 2013

djewesbury wrote:
idj123 wrote:Houston, we have a problem! Just tried to open and decant the G70 before going into work and no purchase-the seal seemed intact but the cork's obviously dropped into the wine. Bit of bottle stink and so I'm taking no chances and switching to a Ck70, if that's ok-although not much time to stand it beforehand? Appreciate that this will likely mess up the placemats-sorry!

Ian
G70? You mean G83? And presumably Ck83..?
Does anyone have G83 to offer..?
Does anyone have an opinion?

If no opinions or responses before 1pm, placemats will be as is.