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by jdaw1 » 12:38 Tue 04 Mar 2014
Should we have a poll? Any poll? A question of this nature must be decided by the members of
Obviously you should explain your vote, thereby perhaps persuading others to vote as you did.
(The point of the thread is the mock-vehemence of the explanation.)
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by djewesbury » 12:42 Tue 04 Mar 2014
I strongly feel that we should NOT have a poll. Any suggestion of the planned incessant interrogation of members of
would transform its charming and clubbish atmosphere into.. well, into the same boring rubbish as the rest of the internet.
I'm sure that others will back me up on this. I'm happy to poll them to establish same.
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by jdaw1 » 12:42 Tue 04 Mar 2014
I’m married, so I must defer to her superior wisdom, character, and general being-the-boss-ness. That was my vote.
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by jdaw1 » 13:44 Tue 04 Mar 2014
djewesbury wrote: I strongly feel that we should NOT have a poll. Any suggestion of the planned incessant interrogation of members of
would transform its charming and clubbish atmosphere into.. well, into the same boring rubbish as the rest of the internet.
I'm sure that others will back me up on this.
Undemocratic rubbish. Utter rubbish as well. It isn’t by accident that Port isn’t grown in China.
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by djewesbury » 14:00 Tue 04 Mar 2014
You quoted selectively. I said I was happy for a poll to be taken to affirm that we didn't want polls to be taken.
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by PhilW » 14:34 Tue 04 Mar 2014
It sounds as though you had a pre-poll poll to determine whether to have a poll on whether we should have polls...
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by djewesbury » 15:15 Tue 04 Mar 2014
PhilW wrote: It sounds as though you had a pre-poll poll to determine whether to have a poll on whether we should have polls...
Yes yes. But should we?
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by mosesbotbol » 15:21 Tue 04 Mar 2014
Only if it's a stripper pole.
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by DRT » 15:33 Tue 04 Mar 2014
Definitely not. The current situation in eastern Europe proves beyond doubt that giving people the impression that their vote actually matters is a very dangerous thing.
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by PhilW » 15:36 Tue 04 Mar 2014
No! How could you even suggest such a thing? Don't you care about the planet at ALL?! Archiving of additional polls would cause further CO2 emissions due to additional hard disks being manufactured, increasing global warming and eventually causing the planet to explode. No to Polls!
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by Glenn E. » 18:49 Tue 04 Mar 2014
mosesbotbol wrote: Only if it's a stripper pole.
Or a fireman's pole. That would be the preferred method of entering the TPF cellar. An elevator would then be needed for exit, since climbing a fireman's pole while carrying a case of 1896 Dow would risk damage to the Port.
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by jdaw1 » 23:57 Tue 04 Mar 2014
You have persuaded me: I will change my vote.
Actually, not yet. Do people want me to change my vote?
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by djewesbury » 09:21 Wed 05 Mar 2014
This just in:
76%.
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by jdaw1 » 11:19 Wed 05 Mar 2014
djewesbury wrote: This just in:
76%.
Rubbish. The Russians claim that it is only 9%.
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by djewesbury » 13:31 Wed 05 Mar 2014
jdaw1 wrote: djewesbury wrote: This just in:
76%.
Rubbish. The Russians claim that it is only 9%.
The RUSSIANS? You may as well just pick a number between 0 and 100.
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by Glenn E. » 16:22 Wed 05 Mar 2014
jdaw1 wrote: You have persuaded me: I will change my vote.
Actually, not yet. Do people want me to change my vote?
We'll need a poll to determine that.
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by djewesbury » 16:24 Wed 05 Mar 2014
Glenn E. wrote: jdaw1 wrote: You have persuaded me: I will change my vote.
Actually, not yet. Do people want me to change my vote?
We'll need a poll to determine that.
I think this is an abuse of the process.
And so do my generals.
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by PhilW » 19:39 Wed 05 Mar 2014
Glenn E. wrote: jdaw1 wrote: You have persuaded me: I will change my vote.
Actually, not yet. Do people want me to change my vote?
We'll need a poll to determine that.
Shouldn't we have a poll to decide whether to have a poll to decide?
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by djewesbury » 19:52 Wed 05 Mar 2014
PhilW wrote: Glenn E. wrote: jdaw1 wrote: You have persuaded me: I will change my vote.
Actually, not yet. Do people want me to change my vote?
We'll need a poll to determine that.
Shouldn't we have a poll to decide whether to have a poll to decide?
I thought we just did that!
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by jdaw1 » 21:10 Wed 05 Mar 2014
djewesbury wrote: jdaw1 wrote: djewesbury wrote: This just in:
76%.
Rubbish. The Russians claim that it is only 9%.
The RUSSIANS? You may as well just pick a number between 0 and 100.
I did. Which proves that I’m right and you’re wrong.
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by djewesbury » 21:13 Wed 05 Mar 2014
So have we got an outcome?
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by RAYC » 21:13 Wed 05 Mar 2014
jdaw1 wrote: Should we have a poll? Any poll? A question of this nature must be decided by the members of
Obviously you should explain your vote, thereby perhaps persuading others to vote as you did.
Apologies if i have missed the point of this thread, but is this a poll to see whether a "poll" option should be provided for people to use when starting a new thread?
A poll would be quite useful for "organisation" threads where someone suggests a range of dates for a tasting and others then click the one or more dates on which they can attend. Although things work fine without that at the moment.
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by jdaw1 » 21:14 Wed 05 Mar 2014
Voting so far has not been conclusive.
Even though “not conclusive” was not one of the choices.
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by djewesbury » 21:35 Wed 05 Mar 2014
jdaw1 wrote: Voting so far has not been conclusive.
Even though “not conclusive” was not one of the choices.
I agree with this.
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by Glenn E. » 22:28 Wed 05 Mar 2014
djewesbury wrote: jdaw1 wrote: Voting so far has not been conclusive.
Even though “not conclusive” was not one of the choices.
I agree with this.
That's a sloppy way to gather consensus. We're going to need a poll to determine whether or not there is sufficient agreement.
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by djewesbury » 22:35 Wed 05 Mar 2014
I'm very glad that we did / did not have a poll, is all I know.
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by jdaw1 » 22:56 Wed 05 Mar 2014
I'm not at all glad that we did / did not have a poll, is all I know.
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by DRT » 00:38 Thu 06 Mar 2014
I am only willing to have a poll if it is conducted using
PR-Squared .
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by DRT » 00:42 Thu 06 Mar 2014
RAYC wrote: Apologies if i have missed the point of this thread…?
Some might think that no poll is necessary to answer this question, but I disagree. Can we have a poll to see who is correct?
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by jdaw1 » 08:33 Thu 06 Mar 2014
DRT wrote: I am only willing to have a poll if it is conducted using
PR-Squared .
Better link for PR² . Which would not be an appropriate system for a decision of this type.
Yes, I know it was a deliberate wind-up. It worked.
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by jdaw1 » 16:18 Sat 29 Mar 2014
Voting so far has not been conclusive.
Even though “not conclusive” was not one of the choices.
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by jdaw1 » 11:35 Fri 30 May 2014
More voting; no more conclusion.
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by DRT » 02:40 Sat 31 May 2014
Neck and neck. Who knows where it will end...
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by DRT » 22:52 Mon 09 Jun 2014
I hiope there is a better turnout for the Scottish referendum than we have had here. Come on chaps, get voting!
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by jdaw1 » 22:48 Fri 19 Dec 2014
I have changed my vote.