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mpij · Post by **mpij** » 19:44 Sun 30 Mar 2014

Recently purchased
4 Dows crusred bottled 2006
2 Noval 2006 LBV
1 Wiese & Krohn 2005 VP
1Wiese & Krohn 2009 unfiltered LBV
1Quinta do Infantado 2007 unfiltered LBV
1 magnum(my first) Robertsons Rebello Valente 1977 VP

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:59 Sun 30 Mar 2014

That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:06 Sun 30 Mar 2014

AHB wrote:That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.

Please rephrase. My first magnum, if you remember the post I made at the time, broke in delivery...

CaliforniaBrad · Post by **CaliforniaBrad** » 05:57 Mon 31 Mar 2014

djewesbury wrote:
AHB wrote:That's a nice magnum to start your magnum collection with. Congratulations on breaking your magnum duck.
Please rephrase. My first magnum, if you remember the post I made at the time, broke in delivery...

Aww, if it wasn't so sad, it'd be really funny.

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mpij · Post by **mpij** » 09:36 Mon 31 Mar 2014

Just read my post from last night and realise I should be in the Hall of Shame that is Apostrophe Crimes.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 11:48 Mon 31 Mar 2014

Not once but twice..? Robertson's?

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 18:50 Fri 11 Apr 2014

Ex cellars:

12 x 1998 Warre's Cavadinha
10 x 2003 Warre's unfiltered LBV
2 x Graham's Crusted 2003
(They're cheaper at the source than here on the German market)
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From a merchant here in Germany:

6 x 2004 Noval unfiltered LBV

All to start or complement a "wine ladder" (a term I learned here on TPF)

gerwin.degraaf · Post by **gerwin.degraaf** » 20:14 Fri 11 Apr 2014

Smith Woodhouse 2000 VP (12)
Smith Woodhouse 2007 VP (6)

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 13:59 Sun 13 Apr 2014

Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:17 Sun 13 Apr 2014

Andy Velebil wrote:2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:23 Sun 13 Apr 2014

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

What, just like that?

Post by **DRT** » 18:30 Sun 13 Apr 2014

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

Andy, it is very important that you do not accept any applications to be your new best Port buddy

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 19:43 Sun 13 Apr 2014

Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP

C'mon, you can't do that to us. Tell us how you managed that one, please!

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 19:47 Sun 13 Apr 2014

AHB wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP
C'mon, you can't do that to us. Tell us how you managed that one, please!

Well, three came up at auction. But one wasn't all that great of condition. So I bid on the others and won. You'll hate me for this part as even by UK standard it's cheap for this old VP. I paid about $1700 for the pair (which includes buyers premium and tax)

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Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 19:48 Sun 13 Apr 2014

DRT wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:Forgot to post this a bit ago..
2 bottles of 1820 Ferreira VP
Andy, it is very important that you do not accept any applications to be your new best Port buddy

Quite sure at least one will be opened in the company of long standing fellow port lovers at some point.

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MacAllan · Post by **MacAllan** » 11:23 Mon 14 Apr 2014

My first Niepoort Garrafeira in my cellar. This one the 1940. I would like to collect all the Garrafeiras made

Missed out the great german Niepoort Garrafeira gettogether earlier this year. But who knows! Maby I Can equlize with a Danish ditto.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 16:55 Mon 14 Apr 2014

MacAllan wrote:Missed out the great german Niepoort Garrafeira gettogether earlier this year.

You didn't miss it. It was cancelled because there were not enough participants.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:45 Mon 14 Apr 2014

Not enough participants?? How could this be? Was this a worldofport event?

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 20:27 Mon 14 Apr 2014

Yes, it was a World of Port event. Why? Garrafeira is quite expensive, but there are fewer declarations than with "normal" VPs. So the price of the Garrafeira tasting was that of a big tasting, but the line-up only consisted of less than a dozen bottles. So people were somehow put off by this I think.

mpij · Post by **mpij** » 17:05 Sun 27 Apr 2014

4 bottles Dow's Crusted bottled 2007.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 19:53 Tue 10 Jun 2014

From my local supermarket: 5 bottles of Niepoort Crusted bottled 2011.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 20:16 Tue 10 Jun 2014

AW77 wrote:From my local supermarket: 5 bottles of Niepoort Crusted bottled 2011.

Very nice! These are very difficult to find. No need to be in a rush to drink them.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 20:22 Tue 10 Jun 2014

Yes, I tasted this Crusted at the Essencia this year. I will order 12 bottles more from my local supermarket.
By the way: The retail price here is 19,99 Euro, which is just 3 Euro more than the 09 LBV.
As I still have 6 bottles of the 2007 Niepoort Crusted there is really no need to drink the one from 2011.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:28 Tue 10 Jun 2014

AW77 wrote:Yes, I tasted this Crusted at the Essencia this year. I will order 12 bottles more from my local supermarket.
By the way: The retail price here is 19,99 Euro, which is just 3 Euro more than the 09 LBV.
As I still have 6 bottles of the 2007 Niepoort Crusted there is really no need to drink the one from 2011.

I hope I can find this in Berlin in a few weeks' time!

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 18:31 Sat 14 Jun 2014

If we start our Mosel tour from Cologne, you could stock up here (if they still have the Crusted on the shelf by then). Or I could buy some bottles now and give them to you in August.
By the way: I could get the sixth bottle yesterday (there were bottles on the shelf once again).

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 18:52 Sun 15 Jun 2014

Half a dozen Warre LBV from Waitrose with the 25% off. And a couple of the 2011 BOB, just to try and a half dozen H&H 15yo Verdelho. Not that the last one counts on this thread.

griff · Post by **griff** » 11:20 Wed 18 Jun 2014

The Quinta do Vale Meao thread has prompted me to mention that I have recently come across two more bottles of the 2007 VP over here

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 14:03 Tue 08 Jul 2014

Six magnums of Offley '63. one bottle of Offley '45, and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

- Offley nice stash

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:29 Tue 08 Jul 2014

uncle tom wrote:Six magnums of Offley '63. one bottle of Offley '45, and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

- Offley nice stash

Tom did better than me - one case of Croft 1970 (sorry to the holder of paddle 980 (⬆︎) for bidding against you!

)

Post by **flash_uk** » 14:51 Tue 08 Jul 2014

One case of Fonseca 85. Looking forward to my first taste of this

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 15:24 Tue 08 Jul 2014

flash_uk wrote:One case of Fonseca 85. Looking forward to my first taste of this

So that was you...

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:48 Tue 08 Jul 2014

I note with some relief that I haven't been listing a fraction of the stuff I've bought lately. If I did I think I would start receiving PMs asking me if I'm OK.
Case of F70 and some random 85s.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 00:08 Wed 09 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:I note with some relief that I haven't been listing a fraction of the stuff I've bought lately. If I did I think I would start receiving PMs asking me if I'm OK.
Case of F70 and some random 85s.

Tell me all about the case of F70, as you so casually put it.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:16 Wed 09 Jul 2014

Well. I was in Porto. A gentleman mentioned that he'd bought a case recently, and that there was one other. I had some cash and thought, hmm. So I contacted Corney's who said it had been bottled by them and been with them since release and that the levels were good. So, I said, does that mean you'll let me buy it? And they checked into it and said yes. And I did. And in September I'm going to tootle across to Ayr and pick it up.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 00:20 Wed 09 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:Well. I was in Porto. A gentleman mentioned that he'd bought a case recently, and that there was one other. I had some cash and thought, hmm. So I contacted Corney's who said it had been bottled by them and been with them since release and that the levels were good. So, I said, does that mean you'll let me buy it? And they checked into it and said yes. And I did. And in September I'm going to tootle across to Ayr and pick it up.

You clever old thing. I hope you'll both be very happy together.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 00:22 Wed 09 Jul 2014

I fear already that this relationship will not last as long as it should. There, I've said it.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 00:27 Wed 09 Jul 2014

I think your relationship with Fonseca 1970 will blossom and grow. You will grow old together.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 01:25 Wed 09 Jul 2014

uncle tom wrote:and one splendid magnum of Offley '23 (loads of cellar grime in the right place and level well into neck)

And no tasting notes at all on 1923. Most interesting.

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 08:59 Wed 09 Jul 2014

And no tasting notes at all on 1923

Broadbent gives the Offley '23 a passing mention

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 19:45 Wed 09 Jul 2014

uncle tom wrote:
And no tasting notes at all on 1923
Broadbent gives the Offley '23 a passing mention

Just looked it up, not glowing but warm words. From a magnum that looks right you have once again secured pole position to give the last word on this wine.

djewesbury wrote:and some random 85s.

Go on...

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:01 Wed 09 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:and some random 85s.
Go on...

Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 23:07 Wed 09 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.

Chin up, I bet the next 85s you buy aren't as cheap. Nice wines too.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:09 Wed 09 Jul 2014

LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Oh you know, a couple of Dow, a couple of Warre. No Graham. These were the makeweights that I didn't really want, but which would be economical to have collected if I won the lot that I didn't at Brightwells. I got the makeweights. Such is life.
Chin up, I bet the next 85s you buy aren't as cheap. Nice wines too.

You seem to have some foreknowledge. How uncanny.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 18:19 Tue 15 Jul 2014

6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:22 Tue 15 Jul 2014

AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau

Very nice! From where?

WineLoverPT · Post by **WineLoverPT** » 06:57 Wed 16 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau
Very nice! From where?

AW77 recommended this one to me - one email and 5 days later I got my 12 from, it goes without saying, the lovely Cátia.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 17:05 Wed 16 Jul 2014

djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau
Very nice! From where?

From the Garrafeira Nacional.

PopulusTremula · Post by **PopulusTremula** » 09:23 Wed 23 Jul 2014

6 botts of QdN 1997. Bought DP and inc. VAT from an established London merchant who appears to have got the price wrong (i'm not usually in the market for these). Bottles look pristine so unless they are ex-Kurniawan stock or similar, then i might just have scored a bit of a bargain.

Whilst rather pleased with the find, i am also slightly embarrassed about my own greed, thus prompting the question: what obligations, moral, legal or otherwise, does a buyer have to (i) inform the seller of a potential pricing error and (ii) refrain from "hitting the offer" so to speak?

Example: an airline misprices business flights to NYC at £40 when they should have been £4000. Past cases of this have, i think, ended up in court (or other relevant body), and in some cases ruled in favour of the airline on the basis that the quoted price was so far from realistic that any potential buyer ought to have realized there was an issue/error.

In my view, wine buying is not completely analogous to the airline example as wine can be negatively affected by storage conditions, provenance etc. which in turn affects the price as well. Whilst i carried out some due diligence (getting a picture of the bottles), i can never obtain "perfect information" about the bottles. This should in turn allow for a greater bid/ask spread and thus strengthening the buyer's argument, both morally an legally.

I would be interested in hearing your views on this (other than: "bring the bottles to TBH and we'll help alleviate your guilt").

Moderators, feel free to move to a new thread if you feel that my post hijacks the current thread.

Post by **DRT** » 11:37 Wed 23 Jul 2014

PopulusTremula wrote:Moderators, feel free to move to a new thread if you feel that my post hijacks the current thread.

Unless others disagree I think this is best left below the radar by remaining here

Congratulations. Morality in the wine trade would make an interesting study. I'm not sure the researchers would find much evidence of it.

Post by **DRT** » 11:41 Wed 23 Jul 2014

Are you certain it isn't Silval or Colheita?