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Martin Peeters · Post by **Martin Peeters** » 21:07 Thu 29 Jan 2015

Good on you Gerwin, I lost the 18x Ware's

One minute before ending they came over me. Tried to get it anyway but when the price came up to €400,- I stopped. Bugger!!!

Martin

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 22:13 Thu 29 Jan 2015

Martin Peeters wrote:Good on you Gerwin, I lost the 18x Ware's One minute before ending they came over me. Tried to get it anyway but when the price came up to €400,- I stopped. Bugger!!!

Martin

I'm sorry to hear that. But if you're interested in the '98 Warre Cavadindha (which was included in the lot), have a look here:
http://www.portugalvineyards.com/wines/ ... -port-1998

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 18:00 Fri 06 Feb 2015

1 x 2003 Niepoort LBV
1 x 2004 Niepoort LBV
(one from a merchant in Portugal, one from a merchant in Germany, these were the last bottles they had, otherwise I would have bought more)

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:48 Fri 06 Feb 2015

We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?

gerwin.degraaf · Post by **gerwin.degraaf** » 20:58 Fri 06 Feb 2015

5 x Kopke 1994 VP

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:43 Fri 06 Feb 2015

We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 22:47 Fri 06 Feb 2015

djewesbury wrote:We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?

I got the 04 from the German merchant for 22,50 Euro all in, but the 03 from the Portuguese merchant was more expensive due to higher shipping fees: 34,60 Euros (16 € for the bottle, 3,75 € for packaging and 14,85 € for the shipment). But since I wanted to close gaps in my Niepoort LBV wine ladder I chose to ingnore the shipping fees.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:23 Fri 06 Feb 2015

AW77 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?
I got the 04 from the German merchant for 22,50 Euro all in, but the 03 from the Portuguese merchant was more expensive due to higher shipping fees: 34,60 Euros (16 € for the bottle, 3,75 € for packaging and 14,85 € for the shipment). But since I wanted to close gaps in my Niepoort LBV wine ladder I chose to ingnore the shipping fees.

Still good prices. Anything older than 05 moves into 'rarity prices' territory in the UK.

gerwin.degraaf · Post by **gerwin.degraaf** » 16:13 Sun 08 Feb 2015

djewesbury wrote:We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?

Not too bad I guess, I did not totally realise that there was 21% VAT to be added to my bid (not the auctioneer's fault, they did indicate it, I just overlooked). In total, including shipping I paid about €41 a bottle. The bottles are in pristine condition, so I'm happy with it.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:46 Sun 08 Feb 2015

gerwin.degraaf wrote:
djewesbury wrote:We'll done. Good purchases. Fair prices?
Not too bad I guess, I did not totally realise that there was 21% VAT to be added to my bid (not the auctioneer's fault, they did indicate it, I just overlooked). In total, including shipping I paid about €41 a bottle. The bottles are in pristine condition, so I'm happy with it.

Actually I was referring to André's Niepoort LBVs but my message was mysteriously posted twice! Sorry to hear the VAT caught you out! And €41 still isn't too bad.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 19:20 Sat 14 Feb 2015

Was it wrong of me to buy a case of Dow 97 from Berrys for £360? If so I plead the Bollinger rose ammendment.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 19:26 Sat 14 Feb 2015

Crikey. That's a bold purchase.

Post by **DRT** » 20:12 Sat 14 Feb 2015

Bold indeed, but that isn't a disastrous price. I hope you will both be very happy together.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 20:49 Sat 14 Feb 2015

So a consensus that I'm bold then.

Is that bold in the Charles Hawtree/Kenneth Williams way or bold in the daring dawn raid way, or the threw himself out the window convinced he could fly way?

The price is not disastrous, for retail.

Post by **DRT** » 21:01 Sat 14 Feb 2015

How did the flying thing work out?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:47 Sat 14 Feb 2015

It's drinking OK even at this young age.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 21:50 Sat 14 Feb 2015

DRT wrote:How did the flying thing work out?

I've bought it now, you could have lied. Or let me down gently.

Anyway it hasn't got a poor write up for a 97. It is part of a strategy to get a few cases a year and also replace what I drink from the stash with odds and ends of something similar from what turns up locally. That way hopefully I get a decent stash of cases for my sere and barren days. I have drawn the port line at the turn of the century, but I liked those 03s so much I may have to rethink.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 21:56 Sat 14 Feb 2015

Good price for BBR-equivalent to the retail price at ND John when I last bought the D97 there.

Post by **DRT** » 22:06 Sat 14 Feb 2015

LGTrotter wrote:I have drawn the port line at the turn of the century

Excellent. That means you can sneak in a few 2000s

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 22:12 Sat 14 Feb 2015

AHB wrote:It's drinking OK even at this young age.

idj123 wrote:Good price for BBR-equivalent to the retail price at ND John when I last bought the D97 there.

Thank you, that's more like it.

Martin Peeters · Post by **Martin Peeters** » 16:13 Wed 18 Feb 2015

2x Pintas VP2009 for just under €40,- per bottle including shipping etc.

Martin

John M · Post by **John M** » 00:28 Thu 26 Feb 2015

Won at auction today (& pretty happy about it)

1 x 1998 Niepoort LBV
2 x 1997 Sandeman LBV
3 x 1994 Warre's LBV
1 x 1998 Dow's, Quinta da Senhora da Ribeira
1 x Sandeman 40 Year Tawny
4 x Barros Very Old Dry White Port

griff · Post by **griff** » 05:34 Wed 11 Mar 2015

Australian importer has cleared a fair few Quinta de la Rosa 2000 and 2003 vintage ports at auction. Managed to pick up a couple of the 1999 Vale do Inferno as well.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:15 Thu 26 Mar 2015

6 Roriz 00 from BBX. Seemed a fair price so I threw in 6 Chasse Spleen 08 as well.

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:56 Thu 26 Mar 2015

djewesbury wrote:6 Roriz 00 from BBX. Seemed a fair price so I threw in 6 Chasse Spleen 08 as well.

So you relieved the disappointment from the auction on Tuesday!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 17:57 Thu 26 Mar 2015

Exactly. Half of this purchase was planned, but it wasn't the port!

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 20:00 Thu 26 Mar 2015

djewesbury wrote:6 Roriz 00 from BBX.

I have been staring longingly at this one too. It's a great big lovely thing which will grow in magnificence as we become dotards. Good buy.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:19 Thu 26 Mar 2015

LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:6 Roriz 00 from BBX.
I have been staring longingly at this one too. It's a great big lovely thing which will grow in magnificence as we become dotards. Good buy.

It was a bit of a steal. There's more left whenever you feel flush. For me it was an act of payday bravery.
I also got another 3 Mz94 for 25 a pop from Seckford's. Added to the 4 I have already, I am now well on the way to owning a case of it, as I explained to James Maitland.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 20:25 Thu 26 Mar 2015

djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:
djewesbury wrote:6 Roriz 00 from BBX.
I have been staring longingly at this one too. It's a great big lovely thing which will grow in magnificence as we become dotards. Good buy.
It was a bit of a steal. There's more left whenever you feel flush. For me it was an act of payday bravery.
I also got another 3 Mz94 for 25 a pop from Seckford's. Added to the 4 I have already, I am now well on the way to owning a case of it, as I explained to James Maitland.

I wanted to moan about Berry's only having five vintage ports listed (yes there are others via the broking thing, BBX), but five proper ports seems lame. Down with that sort of thing!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:28 Thu 26 Mar 2015

It's very bad form. One would almost have to think of shopping elsewhere.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:12 Fri 27 Mar 2015

djewesbury wrote:I also got another 3 Mz94 for 25 a pop from Seckford's. Added to the 4 I have already, I am now well on the way to owning a case of it, as I explained to James Maitland.

So you're the one who keeps availing themselves of these! I have kept meaning to buy (£30 each I guess, inc VAT?) but never pressed the button-more because as you imply, Seckords want at least 6 in a case to store with them.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 16:25 Fri 27 Mar 2015

idj123 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:I also got another 3 Mz94 for 25 a pop from Seckford's. Added to the 4 I have already, I am now well on the way to owning a case of it, as I explained to James Maitland.
So you're the one who keeps availing themselves of these! I have kept meaning to buy (£30 each I guess, inc VAT?) but never pressed the button-more because as you imply, Seckords want at least 6 in a case to store with them.

If you're buying them from Seckford's they'll happily store them for you. My first four have been sitting there for a while. And the latest three have been transferred today.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 18:56 Fri 27 Mar 2015

My latest purchase was 9 bottles of Gruard Larose 1983 to replace the Talbot 1983 I have nearly finished.

TLW · Post by **TLW** » 01:00 Sat 28 Mar 2015

12 1994 Taylor
12 1994 Dow
12 1991 Dow
12 1991 Guimarens
6 1996 Vesuvio
6 1995 Vesuvio

gerwin.degraaf · Post by **gerwin.degraaf** » 17:02 Sat 04 Apr 2015

2x 1974 Kopke Colheita (bottled 2004)
1x 1977 Kopke Vintage
1x 1989 Borges & Irmao Vintage

Both were 2-bottle lots at auction last weekend.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 12:32 Sat 11 Apr 2015

Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.

Post by **flash_uk** » 12:35 Sat 11 Apr 2015

LGTrotter wrote:Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.

I've never tried the Vau 2003 - is it any good? My local Tesco store has started stocking the BOB 1997 rather than the 1994.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 13:19 Sat 11 Apr 2015

LGTrotter wrote:Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.

who makes the BOB?

Post by **DRT** » 13:23 Sat 11 Apr 2015

Andy Velebil wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.
who makes the BOB?

SFE - this is the one that was at one time identified as QH but might now be from a different blend.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 15:41 Sat 11 Apr 2015

flash_uk wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.
I've never tried the Vau 2003 - is it any good? My local Tesco store has started stocking the BOB 1997 rather than the 1994.

I've no idea as I have never had it either, but at £22 and change a bottle less 25% I thought it worth a punt. I liked other vintages of this I tried but have never quite worked out why this is an early maturing vintage port, seems just like most other vintage port.

I am a bit horrified that the 94 is coming to an end, as all good things seem to.

AW77 · Post by **AW77** » 17:26 Sat 11 Apr 2015

6 x 2011 Niepoort Crusted
I bought a bottle each time I did my weekly shopping at the civilised supermarket. I will continue to do so until they run out of stock.

griff · Post by **griff** » 08:23 Sun 12 Apr 2015

AHB wrote:My latest purchase was 9 bottles of Gruard Larose 1983 to replace the Talbot 1983 I have nearly finished.

Oh, a consistently good drop from splits a decade ago. No doubt that, in full bottles and from UK storage, it should serve as a more than worthy replacement.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 08:32 Mon 13 Apr 2015

LGTrotter wrote:
flash_uk wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:Just nipped into Tesco and saw they had their 25% offer on, bought four bottles of 1994 BOB and two 2003 Vau and all for a hundred quid.
I've never tried the Vau 2003 - is it any good? My local Tesco store has started stocking the BOB 1997 rather than the 1994.
I've no idea as I have never had it either, but at £22 and change a bottle less 25% I thought it worth a punt. I liked other vintages of this I tried but have never quite worked out why this is an early maturing vintage port, seems just like most other vintage port.

I am a bit horrified that the 94 is coming to an end, as all good things seem to.

The Vau looked too good to miss - I bought 6 a couple of months ago from the website. I have been keeping my sticky fingers off it as I can't see it being ready, but want to know what it tastes like. #dilemma. (That "#" may not pass the Grammar Police, but a little Monday morning controversy never hurts).

I bought some (well, OK, enough) Tesco BOB '94 this time around, and will send it to Seckford's. I feared the supply must come to an end soon. As there is a suggestion that early and late examples of '94 are different, perhaps some early examples of Tesco '97 could be bought, with a view to comparing it to late '97 as an experiment? But perhaps the '97 will not be worth having, and the '94 supplies must last until the '00 comes out...

I suspect (hope) that buying in mild winter months from Tesco Wine Direct limits Tesco's ability to mishandle the wine on it's delivery route from Porto to me. Any thoughts?

richmills · Post by **richmills** » 10:38 Mon 13 Apr 2015

A brace of Taylor '77. I know the reputation for problems 77 has but I've really enjoyed most of the T77 I've had and I'm hoping my good luck continues.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 17:14 Mon 13 Apr 2015

DaveRL wrote:The Vau looked too good to miss - I bought 6 a couple of months ago from the website. I have been keeping my sticky fingers off it as I can't see it being ready, but want to know what it tastes like. #dilemma. (That "#" may not pass the Grammar Police, but a little Monday morning controversy never hurts).

I bought some (well, OK, enough) Tesco BOB '94 this time around, and will send it to Seckford's. I feared the supply must come to an end soon. As there is a suggestion that early and late examples of '94 are different, perhaps some early examples of Tesco '97 could be bought, with a view to comparing it to late '97 as an experiment? But perhaps the '97 will not be worth having, and the '94 supplies must last until the '00 comes out...

I suspect (hope) that buying in mild winter months from Tesco Wine Direct limits Tesco's ability to mishandle the wine on it's delivery route from Porto to me. Any thoughts?

I think of little else but Tesco's delivery chain. I think you are right to buy in winter months as it seems to me this gives less chance for Tesco to deliver something which tastes boiled. Incidentally I have a theory that some of the rather stewed bottles which have appeared in the tasting notes are as a result of shoddy handling in the supply chain.

The 97 will presumably be at about the same price as the 94 and I would always favour the 94 over the 97 but at £15 a bottle (on offer) it would still represent a bargain whichever vintage it came from.

#nodilemma; leave it as long as you can, but if you can't wait, so what? I was only £18.

DaveRL · Post by **DaveRL** » 08:04 Tue 14 Apr 2015

LGTrotter wrote:Incidentally I have a theory that some of the rather stewed bottles which have appeared in the tasting notes are as a result of shoddy handling in the supply chain.

I'm pretty sure you are right. I shudder to think of pallets of wine cooking in the hot sun waiting to be offloaded/moved by highly trained and dedicated supermarket staff. Or chimps on a tea break.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 12:34 Tue 14 Apr 2015

LGTrotter wrote:I think of little else but Tesco's delivery chain. I think you are right to buy in winter months as it seems to me this gives less chance for Tesco to deliver something which tastes boiled. Incidentally I have a theory that some of the rather stewed bottles which have appeared in the tasting notes are as a result of shoddy handling in the supply chain.

I had always assumed that the 1994 vintage was bought as one (or perhaps 2 or 3) large parcel, shipped to the UK and then stored in Tesco's own warehouse. One of the benefits that SFE would get with a deal like this would be some clear cellar space, ready for the next vintage.

The condition of the bottles - and I agree that they are variable and some are quite stewed - would then be entirely down to Tesco's ability to store and transport port properly. Perhaps the moral of the story is to buy only when the new vintage first appears on the shelf and so is as freshly removed from the VNdG cellars as possible.

Post by **flash_uk** » 12:48 Tue 14 Apr 2015

AHB wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:I think of little else but Tesco's delivery chain. I think you are right to buy in winter months as it seems to me this gives less chance for Tesco to deliver something which tastes boiled. Incidentally I have a theory that some of the rather stewed bottles which have appeared in the tasting notes are as a result of shoddy handling in the supply chain.
I had always assumed that the 1994 vintage was bought as one (or perhaps 2 or 3) large parcel, shipped to the UK and then stored in Tesco's own warehouse. One of the benefits that SFE would get with a deal like this would be some clear cellar space, ready for the next vintage.

The condition of the bottles - and I agree that they are variable and some are quite stewed - would then be entirely down to Tesco's ability to store and transport port properly. Perhaps the moral of the story is to buy only when the new vintage first appears on the shelf and so is as freshly removed from the VNdG cellars as possible.

I'd be surprised if Tesco did this. They tend to want to minimise inventory (and the need for warehouse space), and so would prefer to have regular smaller shipments.

Martin Peeters · Post by **Martin Peeters** » 00:57 Fri 17 Apr 2015

Three times Dalva Vintage 2007 for € 24,36 the bottle. I am pleased

Martin

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 17:51 Fri 17 Apr 2015

Another half dozen of the Tesco 94, still on offer (25% off). Panic buying on account of the 97 being spotted.