Apostrophe crimes

[jdaw1]

Am missing the issue?

Self-evidently.

(capitalisation?)

No.

Oh no! Someone accidentally walked into the room marked 'Do not disturb the pedant'.

I am delighted to learn that you did not think that I was already disturbed.

[PhilW]

Am missing the issue?

Self-evidently.

What is the crime?

[djewesbury]

I never intimated that I didn't think you were disturbed. But I thought that you shouldn't be disturbed. Can we have a new thread where we can post examples of nuance?

[jdaw1]

What is the crime?

A masculine ordinal (“º”) is not a degree sign (“°”).

[djewesbury]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

[jdaw1]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

[Glenn E.]

What is the crime?

A masculine ordinal (“º”) is not a degree sign (“°”).

Interesting. I thought the crime was the use of "gave."

To my ear the sentence sounds similar to saying "the temperature in London gave 12 today."

[DRT]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

[djewesbury]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

[DRT]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

Classic deflection technique. Have you read that book I sent you yet?

[djewesbury]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

Classic deflection technique. Have you read that book I sent you yet?

Yes that was a classic deflection. By you. Yes. I read it twice.

[DRT]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

Classic deflection technique. Have you read that book I sent you yet?

Yes that was a classic deflection. By you. Yes. I read it twice.

And you answer to JDAW's question is...?

[djewesbury]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

Classic deflection technique. Have you read that book I sent you yet?

Yes that was a classic deflection. By you. Yes. I read it twice.

And you answer to JDAW's question is...?

Yes, I am Don Francisco's sister.

[djewesbury]

And Julian needs a job. Or some occupational therapy at least.

[DRT]

I didn't see a masculine ordinal when I looked at the blog page. On my screen it's a degree sign.

Pray tell sir, by what signs would you know the difference?

Daniel, please post your answer here to save us the trouble.

Derek, why don't you answer for me? You clearly have the answer a your fingertips.

Classic deflection technique. Have you read that book I sent you yet?

Yes that was a classic deflection. By you. Yes. I read it twice.

And you answer to JDAW's question is...?

Yes, I am Don Francisco's sister.

Yes, we know that. Keep up. Back to your fabulous skill at identifying the differences in ordinals - please entertain the class with an answer that is actually an answer.

[DRT]

And Julian needs a job. Or some occupational therapy at least.

Did you get that from Chapter 9 of the anthropology book - Why humans lash out at others when cornered?

[jdaw1]

Get back in your matrimonial thread.

Both º and ª redirect here. º is not to be confused with the degree symbol (°) or ring (diacritic) (˚)
…
The masculine ordinal indicator U+00BA (º) is often confused with the degree sign U+00B0 (°), which looks very similar in many fonts and is available on Italian and Spanish keyboard layouts. The degree sign is a uniform circle and is never underlined, while the letter o may be oval or elliptical and have a varying line thickness. The letter o may also be underlined.

[PhilW]

What is the crime?

A masculine ordinal (“º”) is not a degree sign (“°”).

A small circle which looked like a degree sign, was actually very slightly smaller than expected. Barely an error, let alone a crime, I think.

[jdaw1]

Barely an error, let alone a crime, I think.

Even if in some fonts they are the same glyph, they are still different characters. Nonetheless:

Perhaps this is a bit harsh

[djewesbury]

Obviously, if I were wrong, I would be very eager to say so. But we haven't yet proved that I was. Can JDAW please prove that there are separate glyphs in the font used on the Malvedos blog for these characters?

[jdaw1]

separate glyphs in the font used on the Malvedos blog for these characters?

Irrelevant: it is the character that is wrong, which therefore might be shown using the wrong glyph on some browser on some system at some time.

As it does now. After repeated command-shift-+, to enlarge:

Safari:


Chrome:


Opera:


Those are not degree symbols.

[djewesbury]

Julian, has anybody ever suggested that you might have too much time on your hands?

[jdaw1]

Julian, has anybody ever suggested that you might have too much time on your hands?

I saw it immediately, and posted. You doubting Thomases then waste two dozen posts arguing.

[djewesbury]

You didn't answer the question.

[jdaw1]

Obviously, if I were wrong, I would be very eager to say so.

Degree versus masculine ordinal: go on, say.

Julian, has anybody ever suggested that you might have too much time on your hands?

People have said many things about me, including that. Some of the things people have said about me were true.

[djewesbury]

Obviously, if I were wrong, I would be very eager to say so.

Degree versus masculine ordinal: go on, say.

I was wrong.

[djewesbury]

Only recently? I thought the "moon turning to blood" was Old Testament (maybe New, I forget - it does sound more like something that would come from Revelations).

As revealed to St. John the Divine.

[jdaw1]

No. You used a noun: affect. This is a word used by psychologists and refers to emotional states. Please reconsider.

Recalling my lesson, I have just removed a noun “affect” from a footnote. Thank you.

[djewesbury]

Only recently? I thought the "moon turning to blood" was Old Testament (maybe New, I forget - it does sound more like something that would come from Revelations).

As revealed to St. John the Divine.

This crime still has not been atoned for.

[djewesbury]

No. You used a noun: affect. This is a word used by psychologists and refers to emotional states. Please reconsider.

Recalling my lesson, I have just removed a noun “affect” from a footnote. Thank you.

My pleasure.

[jdaw1]

This crime still has not been atoned for.

I recognise that my dislike of propositional endings is much stronger than that of the authorities, so this might not be a crime. But it rankled.

[djewesbury]

Up with which we will not put?
Regardless. The original crime demands a judgement.

[djewesbury]

Up with which we will not put?
Regardless. The original crime demands a judgement.

As a matter of interest, where else in the sentence would you propose to put this proposition?

[jdaw1]

As a matter of interest, where else in the sentence would you propose to put this proposition?

Substantial re-wording needed — yes, I know, hence the acknowledgement of my failing in this.

[djewesbury]

As a matter of interest, where else in the sentence would you propose to put this proposition?

Substantial re-wording needed — yes, I know, hence the acknowledgement of my failing in this.

Whatevs, babe. Now to the matter of the Book of Revelations.

[PhilW]

Now to the matter of the Book of Revelations.

I thought it was plural, but I see it is not; my error.

[jdaw1]

I guessed at a Taylor's Q de TF 88 which I offer for members' amusement.

Did I get my apostrophe right there Julian?

Perfection! Even the use of ‘which’ rather than ‘that’ is commended.

No crime; merely for the record.

[DRT]

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It is pleasing to see that the youth of today know how to use apostrophes.

[djewesbury]

‘politically-correct’

I changed my mind and thought this deserved citation. I am quite unshakeable on this one; no matter what arguments might be presented I am absolutely certain that any editor or proof reader will tell you this is wrong. Phrases consisting of adjectives modified by attributive adverbs ending in '-ly' should not be hyphenated.

[jdaw1]

I vaguely recall that being grammatically correct. Oops.

[djewesbury]

I vaguely recall that being grammatically correct. Oops.

Manfully worn. Well done. Now chastise the politically correct correctly.

[jdaw1]

Their Colheita's look very reasonably priced

[DRT]

Their Colheita's look very reasonably priced

[DRT]

Clutching at straws, but...

... iff permission is granted, will then do as you say.

[jdaw1]

In logic and related fields such as mathematics and philosophy, if and only if (shortened iff) is a biconditional logical connective between statements.

In my sentence does “if and only if” fit as an expansion of “iff”? (Clue: yes.)

[jdaw1]

Phrases consisting of adjectives modified by attributive adverbs ending in '-ly' should not be hyphenated.

It seems that this was not my first offence of this crime.

we have jointly composed this standard advice, that covers the most frequently-seen situations.

Failing sudden pleas for clemency, the hyphen will die.

[jdaw1]

The ellipsis bothers me. I recognise that others might be bothered by other things, not necessarily the straight single quotation marks (“'”), but the ellipsis is wrong.

Indeed, the whole message needed editing.
• “Our organisation hates … We object”: singular or plural? Is this pronouncement from the organisation, or from its members? Decide and be consistent.
• What are “food resources”? Just food? And are you object to the food resources — what did they do? — or to their consumption? An editor might have sharpened this to “We object to you consuming so much food.”
• “And we do not understand”: generally, those not understanding should be quiet. Those not understanding often aren’t quiet, but should be.
• Then “why you fail to grasp”: I am tubby, and fully grasp that being less tubby would be good. But not as good as eating and drinking are good.
• And “beatiful” is not beautiful spelling.

[jdaw1]

Project X Alien Adventures: Brown Book Band, Oxford Level 9:

[jdaw1]

The Niepoort 57 colheita can confirm it's attendance on Tuesday....

[Doggett]

Damn...I had hoped not to appear in this thread!