That is very profound but doesn't help with my decision in any way.djewesbury wrote:This is exactly why I've been buying them in twos. One is one and all alone and ever more shall be so.AHB wrote:I do have a problem however. For many of the smaller producers I only have one bottle of their 2011 vintage. For which event should I keep them?
2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Please consider me in, and am happy to contribute a large format of either Fonseca or Taylor.
There is, however, a relatively high chance that my attendance may be of a Jeremy Bentham sort, with reviews stating:
TLW - "Present, but not drinking"
There is, however, a relatively high chance that my attendance may be of a Jeremy Bentham sort, with reviews stating:
TLW - "Present, but not drinking"
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I landed some GST and can bring it as backup to AHB
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Unless the Bung Hole changes its tables between now and the big day (thread), we might need a different venue.
Separate to that:
Separate to that:
in the thread entitled [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=82722#p82722]2011 Declarations[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Quarles Harris 2011, as recently delivered to the UK by Glenn E.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.
I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I have all three super cuvees - GST, VVV, VC. I will have to strictly ration, though, as I only have 11 bottles, 2 bottles, and 4 bottles respectively.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
That is a good plan. On 24th April 2051 you will only have 10, 1 and 3 bottles remaining. Do not throw them away so recklessly after that otherwise you might run outGlenn E. wrote:I have all three super cuvees - GST, VVV, VC. I will have to strictly ration, though, as I only have 11 bottles, 2 bottles, and 4 bottles respectively.

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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.
I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I'll keep myself on this thread as I can also supply Tayloy, Fonseca, Niepoort, Quevedo, Smith Woodhouse, Vesuvio, Noval, and Vale D. Maria as necessary. (I also purchased Dow, but as I don't possess it yet, I can't promise that.) I'll check on that other tasting in about 20 years to see if a few of these could go to that as well. The Vieira de Sousa and Barão de Vilar aren't SQVPs. I'll have to check the label on the Morgadio. I don't think it is technically a single quinta, but it might be the closest to qualifying. Of course if the intent of the earlier tasting is just to try things that might not go the distance ...djewesbury wrote:There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.
I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Sorry, yes, that was me being imprecise - SQVPs, smaller or newer brands - admirably summed up as 'things that might not go the distance' in fact.foomench wrote:I'll keep myself on this thread as I can also supply Tayloy, Fonseca, Niepoort, Quevedo, Smith Woodhouse, Vesuvio, Noval, and Vale D. Maria as necessary. (I also purchased Dow, but as I don't possess it yet, I can't promise that.) I'll check on that other tasting in about 20 years to see if a few of these could go to that as well. The Vieira de Sousa and Barão de Vilar aren't SQVPs. I'll have to check the label on the Morgadio. I don't think it is technically a single quinta, but it might be the closest to qualifying. Of course if the intent of the earlier tasting is just to try things that might not go the distance ...djewesbury wrote:There is an earlier tasting for SQVPs - can't remember the date, I think only 25 years hence...foomench wrote:I've got Vieira de Sousa, Morgadio da Calçada (Niepoort), and Barão de Vilar to offer up, although these might be better suited to an earlier tasting. I have others as well, but these were my more unique offerings thus far.
I tried to mark my calendar, but it seems Google Calendar has a bug as it moved my event entry to 2050 despite my best efforts.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Count me in...
I can bring a Bottle of GST 2011 and also a magnum of Fonseca 2011. Also for a special treat I have some Waitrose (symington) 2011 I can supply too, if you want to up the quality stakes!
I hope to see you all there.
I can bring a Bottle of GST 2011 and also a magnum of Fonseca 2011. Also for a special treat I have some Waitrose (symington) 2011 I can supply too, if you want to up the quality stakes!
I hope to see you all there.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?

Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.
Perhaps you want to suggest a flighting plan.
Perhaps you want to suggest a flighting plan.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
With 426 months to go I didn't think we were in too much of a rush to finalise the planningPhilW wrote:I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?

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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
But if we book the venue now we should be able to get our first choice of room.DRT wrote:With 426 months to go I didn't think we were in too much of a rush to finalise the planningPhilW wrote:I've been waiting for just over two years for Derek to update the first post; I see he (or someone) has done this, but only based on very recent posts.djewesbury wrote:I have just noticed that the first post does not reflect what everyone (eg THRA) has said they'll be bringing. Could this be rectified before the event?
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Hopefully I will get added once editing has resumed.jdaw1 wrote:I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.

In addition to all 3 super cuvees, I also have Vieira de Sousa and Quevedo (6L, 1.5L, 750mm, 375mm). Though the smaller Quevedo bottles are likely to be consumed before 2051.
Glenn Elliott
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I have a case of Vale Meao.DRT wrote:Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Thanks, Mike.flash_uk wrote:I have a case of Vale Meao.DRT wrote:Unfortunately, this purchase was not honoured due to over-allocation by the producer. Can someone else please step up?DRT wrote:Quinta do Vale Meao (DRT)
My lovely assistant will add that to the first page along with the other requested updates

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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Also have Taylor, Cockburn, Noval and Ferreira.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
If we want to ensure we are well taken care off during our tasting, this might be a good venue?AHB wrote:But if we book the venue now we should be able to get our first choice of room.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
Ernest H. Cockburn
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner' (I briefed her the other day but Peppa Pig was on and so not sure how much she digested) but of those not currently listed I can offer both Burmester and Churchill in Mags and RP in standard.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
The organiser has been slack about updating the first post, so I have done it, at least in part. And somehow there are nineteen people who want to play. I have cut the reserve list, as is traditional, at 14 people, but it seems, ahem, likely, that there will be spaces for all those currently on the reserve list (which is not the same thing as saying that all will attend).
The list of Ports has not yet been finalised.
The organiser needs to make a policy decision about this. Your ‘runner’ is a port enthusiast not attending. DRT: pronounce!idj123 wrote:I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner'
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Then, in an attempt to deny that the problem had been outsourced to him...jdaw1 wrote:I started, and then had other things to do. It will be resumed.
jdaw1 wrote:The organiser has been slack about updating the first post, so I have done it
Runners and nurses are allowed.jdaw1 wrote:The organiser needs to make a policy decision about this. Your ‘runner’ is a port enthusiast not attending. DRT: pronounce!idj123 wrote:I will almost certainly have to send out my daughter as my 'runner'
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Greatly reducing the likelihood of the attendance of those currently on the reserve list?DRT wrote:Runners … are allowed.
Phew.DRT wrote:nurses are allowed.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Having consulted one of my colleagues from Actuarial it seems that a number of the members currently in places 1 to 14 will be unavailable to attend and therefore in no need of a runner. A greater than average number of cold winters between now and 2051 might mean we require more reserves!jdaw1 wrote:Greatly reducing the likelihood of the attendance of those currently on the reserve list?DRT wrote:Runners … are allowed.
Indeed, but most of them will not be born until around 2025 so we can neither name them nor answer as to whether they are left or right handed for quite some time.jdaw1 wrote:Phew.DRT wrote:nurses are allowed.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Yes, we all die. But are then replaced by descendants — so the reserves never make it.DRT wrote:Having consulted one of my colleagues from Actuarial it seems that a number of the members currently in places 1 to 14 will be unavailable to attend and therefore in no need of a runner. A greater than average number of cold winters between now and 2051 might mean we require more reserves!jdaw1 wrote:Greatly reducing the likelihood of the attendance of those currently on the reserve list?DRT wrote:Runners … are allowed.
Are the dead replaced by their children or by the reserves?
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
A relief for jdaw1 as he will be allowed to continue to attend following his planned career change?jdaw1 wrote:Phew.DRT wrote:nurses are allowed.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
The dead and dying will be replaced by reserves.
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
No substitutes; no ‘runners’; no bequeathing places.DRT wrote:The dead and dying will be replaced by reserves.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Agreed. But those able to attend are permitted to bring a non-drinking assistant if required.jdaw1 wrote:No substitutes; no ‘runners’; no bequeathing places.DRT wrote:The dead and dying will be replaced by reserves.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
My cryogenically frozen body may be there, which technically isn't bequeathing a place as it's me. Just a stiffer version. Someone else attending is welcome to help me consume my share of the Port.jdaw1 wrote:No substitutes; no ‘runners’; no bequeathing places.DRT wrote:The dead and dying will be replaced by reserves.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I will only be 78. I'll drink all your pours.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I'll be 86. Will you wipe all my dribbles?djewesbury wrote:I will only be 78. I'll drink all your pours.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
This thread was started just over five years ago. It seems appropriate that people should, once every half decade, have to re-confirm their likely attendance, longevity permitting.
Those who do not, before 2nd February 2019, re-confirm their intention to attend, will be deemed to have lost interest. Please re-confirm.
I have hereby done so.
Those who do not, before 2nd February 2019, re-confirm their intention to attend, will be deemed to have lost interest. Please re-confirm.
I have hereby done so.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Well of course I’ll be there. Can’t your man just check with my man?
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Put me down please. Thanks.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Indeed, ‘his man’ did. And imagine the shock on discovering that you answer your own electronic messages. Don’t you have a man to do that?
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Yes please.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
I recently had to decline another event in favour of this, so absolutely still in.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Could we add the fact that it is a Sunday to the title? Have we booked a room at the B&F? Hopefully we will be able to get the Red Room — but I'm not sure what are the opening hours of the B&F on Sunday.
And yes, I am still in.
And yes, I am still in.
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Still in!
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Still a reserve hoping to be promoted to the main list, but will just be pleased to be around to read the tasting notes in all honesty.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
Still here. Still in.
Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, 23rd April 2051
First post updated.
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051
Over the past 5 years I appear to have acquired a handful of other bottles from the 2011 vintage. I will put neck labels on them to ensure I don't drink them before St George's Day 2051.
The additional bottles I could contribute to the tasting are:
The additional bottles I could contribute to the tasting are:
- Berry Brothers Own Label {magnum}
- Duorum
- Quinta de Vale Meao
- Quinta do Infantado
- Quinta do Passadouro
- Quinta do Sagrado
- Taylor Vargellas Vinha Velha
Top Ports in 2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
2025: Quevedo 1972 Colheita, b.2024. Just as good as Niepoort 1900!
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051
Andy Velebil wrote:
Mind you - you'll only be a sprightly 78 - which used to be a record..
Careful.. - we might have euthanasia on demand by then.Put me down please. Thanks.
Mind you - you'll only be a sprightly 78 - which used to be a record..
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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051
After the tasting, pleaseuncle tom wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:
Careful.. - we might have euthanasia on demand by then.Put me down please. Thanks.
Mind you - you'll only be a sprightly 78 - which used to be a record..

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Re: 2011 Horizontal - London, Sunday 23rd April 2051
If at all possible, I would like to be added to the Reserves list. As I'll be just 77 at this time I expect to be able to attend.
2011 VP's that I could bring along are:
Not yet on the list:
- Kopke
- Krohn
- Krohn Quinta do Retiro Novo
- Pocas Junior
Already on the list:
- Cockburn's
- Fonseca
- Quevedo
- Warre
2011 VP's that I could bring along are:
Not yet on the list:
- Kopke
- Krohn
- Krohn Quinta do Retiro Novo
- Pocas Junior
Already on the list:
- Cockburn's
- Fonseca
- Quevedo
- Warre