1985 horizontal: Wed 25th Nov 2015, B&F

Post by **flash_uk** » 12:18 Wed 11 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:The Ports need flighting. Please improve upon (the list having been edited a few times):

J. H. Andresen;

Cálem;

Churchill;

M Gonzalez;

Noval;

Ramos Pinto;

Offley Boa Vista;

Sandeman;

Martinez;

Gould Campbell;

Quarles Harris;

Smith Woodhouse;

Dow;

Graham;

Warre;

Taylor;

Fonseca.
(And good work on the food. All bar one are in.)

That looks pretty good to me.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:08 Wed 11 Nov 2015

The Ramos Pinto is a heavy hitter. I would request we swap the Sandeman and the RP.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:12 Wed 11 Nov 2015

Was keeping families together: could Offley also be swapped? With what?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 16:20 Wed 11 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:Was keeping families together: could Sandeman also be swapped? With what?

No, if you're keeping families together then you are proposing the best arrangement possible.

If you're looking to have roughly equal qualities in each flight then I recommend swapping Sandeman and RP.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:29 Wed 11 Nov 2015

Edited before Tapatalk told me of your post: I meant to ask whether Offley could move with Sandeman.

Post by **flash_uk** » 22:35 Wed 11 Nov 2015

I'm aiming to get to the B&F for 1600. Is anyone else coming early to help with set-up?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 22:49 Wed 11 Nov 2015

I should be able to get there 2ish if needed to help?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:53 Wed 11 Nov 2015

AHB wrote:The Ramos Pinto is a heavy hitter. I would request we swap the Sandeman and the RP.

Done, but to keep Sandeman with Offley the Churchill is moving with the Ramos Pinto. Hence we now have:

- Cálem;
- M Gonzalez;
- J. H. Andresen;
- Noval;
- Offley Boa Vista;
- Sandeman;
- Churchill;
- Ramos Pinto;
- Martinez;
- Gould Campbell;
- Quarles Harris;
- Smith Woodhouse;
- Dow;
- Graham;
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca.

Can this new flighting be further improved?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:55 Wed 11 Nov 2015

CPR 1 wrote:I should be able to get there 2ish if needed to help?

flash_uk wrote:I'm aiming to get to the B&F for 1600. Is anyone else coming early to help with set-up?

I will also be getting there at about 2pm, so accept both offers. Thank you.

Charles: will you be able to print? (If so, don’t print from the usual link unless you are absolutely utterly certain that you won’t have caching problems. Near the time either I’ll create a new link, or will email you what to print.)

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 11:10 Thu 12 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:Done, but to keep Sandeman with Offley the Churchill is moving with the Ramos Pinto. Hence we now have:

Cálem;

M Gonzalez;

J. H. Andresen;

Noval;

Offley Boa Vista;

Sandeman;

Churchill;

Ramos Pinto;

Martinez;

Gould Campbell;

Quarles Harris;

Smith Woodhouse;

Dow;

Graham;

Warre;

Taylor;

Fonseca.

From my point of view this looks excellent.

Thanks, Julian

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 10:37 Fri 13 Nov 2015

Julian - I should be able to print on the morning of the 25th, thus no problem

Post by **jdaw1** » 11:10 Fri 13 Nov 2015

Decanting Times

When should the Ports be decanted?

For some there is little choice. Those delivered in advance to the B&F will be decanted soon after 2pm. That will be rather late for those starting at 4¾pm, but should be satisfactory by 7pm.

We want to pre-pour by 4¾pm, so folks arriving in their own good delayed time with bottles, whether or not double-decanted, would be inconvenient (Tom will be marginally later than this, having promised to bring his Sandeman and Gould Campbell by 5pm). But some people might be able to double-decant in the morning, or even the night before, and bring their bottles at lunch. E.g., I have Axel’s Andresen, Ramos Pinto, and Noval, and my Martinez and Churchill. Mike will be arriving in time for pre-pouring with Fonseca and Offley; and likewise Charles with Dow and Quarles Harris. These eleven could be decanted in the morning, or even the night before.

When should they be decanted?

Post by **flash_uk** » 11:15 Fri 13 Nov 2015

I will decant the Fonseca the morning before (so around 32 hours in advance), and the Offley on the morning of the event.

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 11:42 Fri 13 Nov 2015

I will decant the D at about 7am in the morning unless others have strong views? For the QH I could either do 7am or 2pm, I am inclined to the 7am option, any thoughts?

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:10 Fri 13 Nov 2015

Failing contrary consensus, I will decant the Andresen, Ramos Pinto, Noval, Martinez and Churchill between 9am and 10am on the morning of the event.

Separately, TN threads will be created in advance. Please could comments on decanting — when done, state of cork, colour, nose, state of (very small) quality-control sample — go in those threads.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 13:23 Thu 19 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
CPR 1 wrote:I should be able to get there 2ish if needed to help?
flash_uk wrote:I'm aiming to get to the B&F for 1600. Is anyone else coming early to help with set-up?
I will also be getting there at about 2pm, so accept both offers. Thank you.

Charles: will you be able to print? (If so, don’t print from the usual link unless you are absolutely utterly certain that you won’t have caching problems. Near the time either I’ll create a new link, or will email you what to print.)

Sadly due to new work requirements I cannot take as planned the afternoon off and join you.

Delivered both bts (Ca and T) yesterday to the Boot&Flogger and left with the manager. Please open both at arrival (as early as possible) and if possible decant the Ca and the T ~ 4:30PM.

regards

WS1

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 14:29 Thu 19 Nov 2015

Having now found myself free on this day, and having checked with Julian that there is room, I would like to join this 85 horizontal tasting if I may? I am afraid I don't have an 85 to contribute (and also see that there has been a lot of pain agreeing on the ports), but I am happy to adopt/contribute or purchase a bottle? Please get in touch if you have a bottle for adoption or let me know what contribution is required.

I can be there from 2pm so i am more than happy to be there early to help with the set up.

On the food front.... No starter or dessert for me thank you, but could I please order a bangers and mash main course.

Please get in touch if there is anything else I need to do or I can help with.

Simon

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:32 Thu 19 Nov 2015

Doggett wrote:On the food front.... No starter or dessert for me thank you, but could I please order a bangers and mash main course.

Added to food order. Only one missing — you know who you are, please do it.

Others: please verify that you are getting what you think you ordered.

Simon: set-up, yes please.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:34 Thu 19 Nov 2015

Hello!
Crab toast
Black and blue sirloin with cafe de Paris butter.
What am I adopting?

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:40 Thu 19 Nov 2015

With 12 of us, we could stretch to an extra bottle. Who has something to hand that isn’t already coming?

Minor admin: where is the Port?

With JDAW:
• J. H. Andresen (AP);
• Churchill (JDAW);
• Ramos Pinto (AP);
• Noval (AP);
• Martinez (JDAW);

At B&F:
• Cálem (WPS);
• Taylor (WPS);
• M Gonzalez (BMHR) (“will be there on Tuesday next week in an undecanted bottle ready for your arrival on Wednesday”);

Arriving already decanted:
• Gould Campbell (THRA);
• Sandeman (THRA);
• Offley Boa Vista (MPM);
• Fonseca (MPM);
• Quarles Harris (CPR);
• Dow (CPR);
• Graham (AHB);

?
• Smith Woodhouse (IDJ);
• Warre (IDJ).

uncle tom · Post by **uncle tom** » 18:51 Thu 19 Nov 2015

Who has something to hand that isn’t already coming?

How about a Delaforce?

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:57 Thu 19 Nov 2015

uncle tom wrote:How about a Delaforce?

Failing objection that is both cogent and soon, excellent, thank you.

It necessitates a slight re-flighting:

- Cálem;
- M Gonzalez;
- Delaforce;
- J. H. Andresen;
- Noval;
- Offley Boa Vista;
- Churchill;
- Sandeman;
- Martinez;
- Gould Campbell;
- Quarles Harris;
- Smith Woodhouse;
- Ramos Pinto;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- Dow;
- Graham;
- Warre.

Objections?

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 21:32 Thu 19 Nov 2015

No objections from me.

The Graham will be decanted in the morning and will arrive with me around 2pm.

Post by **flash_uk** » 10:50 Fri 20 Nov 2015

The B&F now have our food order, and confirmation has been sought that sufficient glasses will be available

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:05 Sat 21 Nov 2015

flash_uk wrote:confirmation has been sought

Much that is sought is not found. Was the “sought” “confirmation” forthcoming?

Post by **flash_uk** » 16:33 Sat 21 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:
flash_uk wrote:confirmation has been sought
Much that is sought is not found. Was the “sought” “confirmation” forthcoming?

Yes, a positive confirmation has been received.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:54 Sun 22 Nov 2015

Some links:

Review of the event as a whole;
- 1985 Ramos Pinto;
- 1985 Taylor;
- 1985 Fonseca;
- 1985 Dow;
- 1985 Graham;
- 1985 Warre;
Food order;
Placemats (and parameters by which made);
Planning and arrangements.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:56 Sun 22 Nov 2015

Please do post pictures of bottles in the TN threads, as has just been done for • Andresen, • Noval, • Churchill, • Martinez, and • Ramos Pinto.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 20:26 Sun 22 Nov 2015

Mayday, mayday, we have a problem! Whilst I have the W85 try as I might I have not been able to locate the bottle of SW85 that I'd swear I have somewhere. My apologies for this- I can offer a likely poor substitute in the form of Harvey's 85 but is anyone able to plug the gap left by my poor cellar management at this late stage?

Post by **flash_uk** » 20:35 Sun 22 Nov 2015

idj123 wrote:Mayday, mayday, we have a problem! Whilst I have the W85 try as I might I have not been able to locate the bottle of SW85 that I'd swear I have somewhere. My apologies for this- I can offer a likely poor substitute in the form of Harvey's 85 but is anyone able to plug the gap left by my poor cellar management at this late stage?

I think Tom is the only one who can save us!

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:59 Sun 22 Nov 2015

Axel wanted the Symington brands, so it would be better to have SW than to substitute. Ian: you should send a PM to Tom.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 21:11 Sun 22 Nov 2015

PM sent.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 21:44 Sun 22 Nov 2015

idj123 wrote:Mayday, mayday, we have a problem! Whilst I have the W85 try as I might I have not been able to locate the bottle of SW85 that I'd swear I have somewhere. My apologies for this- I can offer a likely poor substitute in the form of Harvey's 85 but is anyone able to plug the gap left by my poor cellar management at this late stage?

Not sure if my earlier post was sent.

I do have SWH 85 but it is in storage - I have just asked for it to be shipped to me but it is touch and go for Wednesday,
Regards
Tony .

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 14:25 Mon 23 Nov 2015

::raises hand::

Flash,

This looks like it is shaping up to be a fabulous tasting! and I think I will be in London on Wednesday! Would there be space for me? I can bring or adopt

woo woo

csd

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 14:38 Mon 23 Nov 2015

Chris Doty wrote:::raises hand::

Flash,

This looks like it is shaping up to be a fabulous tasting! and I think I will be in London on Wednesday! Would there be space for me? I can bring or adopt

woo woo

csd

Hello Chris,

well done planning to stop over in London to have some proper port and steak....

Looking fwd seeing you at the tasting.

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:56 Mon 23 Nov 2015

Woo-woo: please post a food order.

Flash: please inform B&F, including need for more glasses.

Ian, Tom: who is bringing the SW? Do we need to arrange a substitute shipper?

Placemats have been updated.

Post by **jdaw1** » 16:02 Mon 23 Nov 2015

Chris Doty wrote:I can bring or adopt

Have you to hand a Smith Woodhouse 1985?

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:01 Mon 23 Nov 2015

Chris Doty wrote:::raises hand::

Flash,

This looks like it is shaping up to be a fabulous tasting! and I think I will be in London on Wednesday! Would there be space for me? I can bring or adopt

woo woo

csd

Marvellous! See you on Wednesday.
woo woo

Post by **flash_uk** » 17:15 Mon 23 Nov 2015

jdaw1 wrote:Flash: please inform B&F, including need for more glasses.

Done.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:45 Mon 23 Nov 2015

By PM [url=http://www.theportforum.com/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9630]idj123[/url] wrote:Tom has indicated that he should have some to hand and to assume as much unless he advises otherwise. For my failure to deliver (and with Mr Doty now in attendance) I am more than happy to bring the Harvey's as a 'floater'.

Thank you for the floater. Placemats have been amended.

And CPR sent pictures of the bottles of Dow and Quarles Harris.

Chris Doty · Post by **Chris Doty** » 23:06 Mon 23 Nov 2015

lovely lovely.

My order is Tom's, but with bernaise rather than peppercorn, please.

No SW 85, sadly, but think I may have 1.5s of Dow and Graham at Seckfords if we can free them in time. please advise

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:16 Mon 23 Nov 2015

Food order updated and re-sent.

Thank you, but the magnums are not needed for this tasting. Please save for another day.

benread · Post by **benread** » 06:22 Tue 24 Nov 2015

Chris Doty wrote:::raises hand::

Flash,

This looks like it is shaping up to be a fabulous tasting! and I think I will be in London on Wednesday! Would there be space for me? I can bring or adopt

woo woo

csd

Chris

Sorry to miss you again. I shall look forward to the latest "Doty-ism" in the review thread. I will be represented tomorrow by a bottle of M. Gonzalez 1985 which is making its way to the B&F today.

I may have my own mini 1985 at home tomorrow in virtual parallel as I am 'home alone'!

Cheers

Ben

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 10:17 Tue 24 Nov 2015

Just had Tom on the blower and the SWC 85 crisis could be resolved.

Looking fwd to Wednesday..

regards

WS1

Post by **jdaw1** » 10:49 Tue 24 Nov 2015

WS1 wrote:Just had Tom on the blower and the SWC 85 crisis could be resolved.

Thank you Tom.

benread wrote:I may have my own mini 1985 at home tomorrow in virtual parallel as I am 'home alone'!

Need I remind you of The Graham's Vertical and the annexe for the Malvedos tasting?

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:16 Wed 25 Nov 2015

Axel: is the 14th person coming?

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 09:18 Wed 25 Nov 2015

QH and D decanted (7.30am) and delivered to the B&F along with the printed placemats

looking forward to this tasting.....

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:52 Wed 25 Nov 2015

Noon-ish decanting of Andresen (imperfect); Noval (imperfect); and three fine-seeming, Churchill, Martinez, and Ramos Pinto.

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:35 Wed 25 Nov 2015

Has an advance party made it to the B&F yet? I'm probably 60 mins away...

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 16:31 Wed 25 Nov 2015

How is the pouring and decanting going?