Yes. It could be a lower case 'f' also - it could almost be 'friends' but the last letter is most definitely an 'm'. Or at least it's not a 'ds'.DRT wrote:The first two letters could be "Fr".
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I read it as "friend"
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Looks like "frieum" to me, which makes no sense. I suspect that "friend" was intended.
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It could be his last name, "Fieum" or "Feium"
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I see "Messrs Stanley and frien?".
1. Compare the n to previous ones, it is identical.
2. All other capitals are fully above the line, so I believe the f is most likely to be lower-case.
3. The end doesn't make much sense, with an odd up-stroke.
On the evidence, I would go with "friend"
1. Compare the n to previous ones, it is identical.
2. All other capitals are fully above the line, so I believe the f is most likely to be lower-case.
3. The end doesn't make much sense, with an odd up-stroke.
On the evidence, I would go with "friend"
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“Messrs Stanley & friend” does not make sense in the context. Not, I hasten to add, that I have better.
Another, from the same catalogue—the usual participle acting on a colour is “sealed”. Not here.
Another, from the same catalogue—the usual participle acting on a colour is “sealed”. Not here.
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Why ever not? I appreciate that I do not have the context here but it seems that Stanley might well have had an anonymous friend with him.jdaw1 wrote:“Messrs Stanley & friend” does not make sense in the context. Not, I hasten to add, that I have better.
This was my immediate thought but I bet it is dismissed.DRT wrote:Cemented.
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DRT wrote:Cemented.
I thought the same, but it was unusual in that context. Presumably those bottles were difficult to open.LGTrotter wrote:This was my immediate thought but I bet it is dismissed.
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Or sealed with some sort of plaster rather than wax?
...and I still think it is friend. Perhaps someone who didn't want his presence to be known? Perhaps a lover? Perhaps someone who just said "please put me down as his friend".
...and I still think it is friend. Perhaps someone who didn't want his presence to be known? Perhaps a lover? Perhaps someone who just said "please put me down as his friend".
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Friend makes sense. It's just that the last letter really is an 'm'.
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Exactly, hence why I thinks it's his last name.djewesbury wrote:Friend makes sense. It's just that the last letter really is an 'm'.
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Bowen McKechnie?
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Looking at the 'n' in 'vintage' in the line above I would agree. It is definitely not McKechmie but if they are 'special' with their lower k, it could possibly be McKenckie...but I think that unlikely.jdaw1 wrote:
Bowen McKechnie?
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I would say yes McKechnie - especially as that is a surname that is not uncommon, whereas other potential interpretations produce surnames I've never heard of. Bowen? Looks right, more common as a surname than a first name. Perhaps Bowen McKechnie is a partnership business of some sorts, rather than an individual.jdaw1 wrote:
Bowen McKechnie?
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Considering that the line below it appears to say "Corney & Barrow" I'd say that's likely.flash_uk wrote:Perhaps Bowen McKechnie is a partnership business of some sorts, rather than an individual.
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Settled: Bowen and McKechnie were whisky distillers. The firm still exists, at the same address as Allied Domecq. Thank you all.
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Not quite. The link says the company is dissolved. Also, it was incorporated in 1954, well after the port samples your handwriting refers to, were dispatched.jdaw1 wrote:The firm still exists
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There was a wine merchant Basil Woodd, but this isn’t it. Whence came this Offley 1868?
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Morse & Woods wine & spirit merchants.
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Agreed. But I can't figure out what the rest of the text says cJustin K wrote:Morse & Woods wine & spirit merchants.
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2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Agree on Morse Woods. See here.
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part ??? part ???
as may be arranged
??? took and paid for
10 doz or 120 bottles
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part ??? part ???
as may be arranged
??? took and paid for
10 doz or 120 bottles
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I am missing one word:
Nov 10/80. •¿?•, fine wine, but wants keeping, rich & sweet, very firm crust & good colour. R.J.
April 28/83. Very sweet. R.J.
Aug 6/84. Very fine wine, rich & good crust, rather too sweet, but flavor is behind. R.J.
Nov 10/80. •¿?•, fine wine, but wants keeping, rich & sweet, very firm crust & good colour. R.J.
April 28/83. Very sweet. R.J.
Aug 6/84. Very fine wine, rich & good crust, rather too sweet, but flavor is behind. R.J.
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I see 'tried' as well.Glenn E. wrote:Looks like "Tried" to me...