Emergency, B&F, Monday 8th February 2016

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:36 Sun 31 Jan 2016

Ian: your O70 and food added to the placemats.

Wolfgang: you and your Mz63 added. I have assigned you a food order as follows — if wrong, post a correction.
◊ Wild mushrooms on toast with walnut pesto;
◊ Chargrilled sirloin steak 220g (medium-rare) with hand-cut chips and grilled tomato.

Post by **DRT** » 14:57 Sun 31 Jan 2016

Could the list of attendees and Ports in the first post be updated, please?

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:16 Mon 01 Feb 2016

I will be responsible for decanting three: F85, NN87, D97. My plan is to decant the F85 and D97 first thing in the morning, and the NN87 early afternoon. Objections?

Post by **flash_uk** » 20:35 Mon 01 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:I will be responsible for decanting three: F85, NN87, D97. My plan is to decant the F85 and D97 first thing in the morning, and the NN87 early afternoon. Objections?

Would it be possible to decant the night before for the D and F? Certainly F85 enjoys a long decant, and I doubt D97 would object.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:53 Mon 01 Feb 2016

Very well: D97 and F85 to be decanted the night before.

Post by **DRT** » 22:46 Mon 01 Feb 2016

Ck77 will be decanted early morning prior to travel to London.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 08:18 Tue 02 Feb 2016

I was going to decant the S63 just after lunch on the day, unless there are any recommendations of an optimum time?

Post by **PhilW** » 07:34 Wed 03 Feb 2016

Room for one more with a bottle of F77 ?

Post by **DRT** » 09:12 Wed 03 Feb 2016

Glad to hear you are able to attend, Phil

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:31 Wed 03 Feb 2016

There is always room for one more with a bottle of F77, even at a not-F not-’77 tasting.

Post by **PhilW** » 09:49 Wed 03 Feb 2016

Thanks Derek; fingers crossed.

Food order:
Starter: Smoked mackerel with apple and fennel
Main: Chargrilled sirloin steak (black and blue) with hand-cut fries (+ béarnaise sauce if available please, as per Alex)
Side: Creamed spinach

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:24 Wed 03 Feb 2016

Food order believed complete and accurate: please could somebody check.

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:15 Wed 03 Feb 2016

Placemats updated. Mike: glasses pages now A3 — please confirm OK.

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:20 Wed 03 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:Food order believed complete and accurate: please could somebody check.

All looks in order, assuming you have made the correct orders for Bruno-Ken, Greg and you.

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:24 Wed 03 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:Placemats updated. Mike: glasses pages now A3 — please confirm OK.

Yes no problem.

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:21 Fri 05 Feb 2016

Links:

Review of the evening as a whole;
1960 Butler Nephew (AHB);
1963 Croft (MPM);
1963 Sandeman (SCD);
1963 Martinez (WPS);
1970 Fonseca (CPR);
1972 Offley Boa Vista (DRT);
1977 Cockburn (DRT);
1977 Fonseca (PW);
1985 Fonseca (JDAW/BKS);
1987 Quinta do Noval Nacional (JDAW/BKS);
1997 Dow (GLHBD);
Placemats (and parameters by which made);
Planning and arrangements.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 22:43 Sat 06 Feb 2016

jdaw1 wrote:Food order believed complete and accurate: please could somebody check.

Could we include a definition of black and blue? Perhaps "Black and blue = blue centre, burnt on the outside"

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:57 Sun 07 Feb 2016

Please post notes taken on decanting into the appropriate TN thread (BN60, Cr63, S63, Mz63, F70, O70, O72, Ck77, F77, F85, NN87, D97), as has already been done for F85 and D97.

Post by **DRT** » 21:27 Sun 07 Feb 2016

Apologies for not asking this earlier.

The OBV72 is expected to be awful. Does anyone have a preference as to whether or not I decant it before traveling to London (circa 12 hours before the tasting) or when I arrive?

It will not affect the awfulness, but some might wish to experience the awfulness from the point at which the cork is drawn.

If there is no reply I will bring intact.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 21:34 Sun 07 Feb 2016

DRT wrote:Apologies for not asking this earlier.

The OBV72 is expected to be awful. Does anyone have a preference as to whether or not I decant it before traveling to London (circa 12 hours before the tasting) or when I arrive?

It will not affect the awfulness, but some might wish to experience the awfulness from the point at which the cork is drawn.

If there is no reply I will bring intact.

I am hoping that this will be marvellous!

I unfortunately don't know what the best time for decanting would be, so I shall leave it to you, but I shall remain optimistic that it will show well, and be very interested in whether it lives down to your expectations or not. Three cheers for the 72 vintage!

Simon

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:53 Sun 07 Feb 2016

Bring intact. We can sample it from D+0 to D+4hr, which should be enough warning for those wanting some.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 22:10 Sun 07 Feb 2016

Maybe the O72 has previously been in a closed 'sulking' phase and tomorrow will reveal some nectar from the port gods! Let's remain positive until proved otherwise gentlemen.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:12 Sun 07 Feb 2016

Doggett wrote:Maybe the O72 has previously been in a closed 'sulking' phase and tomorrow will reveal some nectar from the port gods! Let's remain positive until proved otherwise gentlemen.

It has not been proved to you. Which is not the same thing as it not having been proved.

Post by **DRT** » 22:43 Sun 07 Feb 2016

"proved" or "proven"?

Post by **DRT** » 22:44 Sun 07 Feb 2016

The OBV72 shall be delivered intact. We can all experience the Offleyness together.

Andy Velebil · Post by **Andy Velebil** » 03:08 Mon 08 Feb 2016

DRT wrote:The OBV72 shall be delivered intact. We can all experience the Offleyness together.

Yikes. May the force be with you all. And save you from the Dark Side.

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WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 13:19 Mon 08 Feb 2016

Mz63 opened 6:17PM. Cork came out in one piece! Very promising smell which nearly affected concentration on brewing an early Espresso.

Will be decanted in a spare empty bt ~ 4:30PM. Hope to arrive shortly after 6:00PM.

cu

WS1

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 13:21 Mon 08 Feb 2016

Andy Velebil wrote:
DRT wrote:The OBV72 shall be delivered intact. We can all experience the Offleyness together.
Yikes. May the force be with you all. And save you from the Dark Side.

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Gulp! I am not looking forward sampling the Offley 72 but will soldier on to do as told by DRT as a shared experience.

regards

WS1

Post by **DRT** » 13:45 Mon 08 Feb 2016

WS1 wrote:
Andy Velebil wrote:
DRT wrote:The OBV72 shall be delivered intact. We can all experience the Offleyness together.
Yikes. May the force be with you all. And save you from the Dark Side.

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Gulp! I am not looking forward sampling the Offley 72 but will soldier on to do as told by DRT as a shared experience.

regards

WS1

This was not my idea. Simon is a 1972 baby and wanted to try it. No one will be forced to participate

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:54 Mon 08 Feb 2016

WS1 wrote:Gulp! I am not looking forward sampling the Offley 72 but will soldier on to do as told by DRT as a shared experience.

Derek is also bringing a Cockburn 1977.

Meanwhile the nose of the NN87 is not happy, so, as a precaution, a GM87 has been decanted.

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 14:00 Mon 08 Feb 2016

Just to let you all know... Derek hasn't taken leave of his palate. The blame for the Offley 72 is entirely mine as Derek is very kindly bringing it for me to try.

Simon

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 15:09 Mon 08 Feb 2016

All, unfortunately it looks as though I will be unable to attend this pm. My wife was ill overnight and in the absence of anyone else to look after her or my daughter, once again I am going to be a no show. My apologies for the late withdrawal

Post by **flash_uk** » 15:33 Mon 08 Feb 2016

idj123 wrote:All, unfortunately it looks as though I will be unable to attend this pm. My wife was ill overnight and in the absence of anyone else to look after her or my daughter, once again I am going to be a no show. My apologies for the late withdrawal

That's a shame. Hope your wife recovers quickly!

Post by **PhilW** » 15:58 Mon 08 Feb 2016

idj123 wrote:All, unfortunately it looks as though I will be unable to attend this pm. My wife was ill overnight and in the absence of anyone else to look after her or my daughter, once again I am going to be a no show. My apologies for the late withdrawal

It's a cunning plan to avoid the OBV72 really, isn't it? (but I hope your wife recovers quickly, and it will be a shame not to have seen you).

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 16:03 Mon 08 Feb 2016

idj123 wrote:All, unfortunately it looks as though I will be unable to attend this pm. My wife was ill overnight and in the absence of anyone else to look after her or my daughter, once again I am going to be a no show. My apologies for the late withdrawal

Shame you won't make it, but I hope your wife recovers well with your help. It is a shame we won't be able to compare the Offley 70 with the OBV72

but there are other fine bottles for the fine 72 vintage to take on this evening!
All the best and hope to see you for a glass soon.

Simon

Post by **flash_uk** » 16:28 Mon 08 Feb 2016

My Cr63 was delivered together with the placemats to the B&F at lunchtime. JDAW has kindly offered to decant the Croft when he arrives, as I will not get there until 6.30.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 07:26 Tue 23 Feb 2016

WS1 wrote:Mz63 opened 6:17PM. Cork came out in one piece! Very promising smell which nearly affected concentration on brewing an early Espresso.

Will be decanted in a spare empty bt ~ 4:30PM. Hope to arrive shortly after 6:00PM.

cu

WS1

Can I assume this was decanted at 6.17 am? Just want to update my tasting notes with the decanting times.

Post by **PhilW** » 09:11 Tue 23 Feb 2016

AHB wrote:
WS1 wrote:Mz63 opened 6:17PM. Will be decanted in a spare empty bt ~ 4:30PM.
Can I assume this was decanted at 6.17 am? Just want to update my tasting notes with the decanting times.

I think Wolfgang is using the Audouze method, so this was opened 06:17 (not pm) but not decanted until 16:30.
Have we ever done a tasting to try and prove whether there is any value to Audouze?
e.g. a case tasting with:
4 bottles opened at 08:00, decanted 08:00
4 bottles opened at 08:00, decanted 14:00
4 bottles opened at 14:00, decanted 14:00
The blind the bottles and taste, score etc.

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 09:13 Tue 23 Feb 2016

Phil is right, I opened it 6:17 AM and decanted it ~ 30 mintes before heading to the B&F so ~ 5:00 PM. Sorry for the typo.

regards

WS1