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LGTrotter wrote:

DRT wrote:Satellite of Love?

It should be, but it isn't.

Has Daniel been teaching you how to give clues?

No clue there I think, I was just remembering the song, an old mates favourite.

Ah. So the clue is!

Top of the ramble about Julian and his dress sense a few posts back. Is it skirts' I wonder?

Or just plain skirts?

Is this the clue or are you asking for assistance?

Julian would know. But he isn't here, neither is anyone else by the look of it. I'll go and ask Bertrand Russell, the dog, he'll understand.

Ah Derek! I was beginning to lose heart.

LGTrotter wrote:There is a womans name in the title.

Zebedee says!

I think we are off the hook. Just you and me here and you were the last person to guess, so we can with a clear conscience divest ourselves of guesswork.

This is peculiarly addictive though.

Any other thoughts, matters outstanding, tips for the 3:30?

I may whistle a bit to keep my spirits up.

Sister Ray.
Sorry. I was making placemats. That extremely good, well-written software is bloody mind-bending for a gallumphing pedestrian like me...

(I edited this post in the morning light, when I saw my handiwork and realised how pleased I am with it.)

Chelsea Girls

djewesbury wrote:Sister Ray.
Sorry. I was making placemats. That software is bloody mind-bending...

No

AHB wrote:Chelsea Girls

No

So to recap; we are looking for a Velvet underground track with a womans name in the title.

I don't think I have missed any other salient points.

Lisa Says?

DRT wrote:Lisa Says?

No.
Morning.

LGTrotter wrote:This is peculiarly addictive

Morning.

Lady Godiva

Candy Says?

AHB wrote:Lady Godiva

DRT wrote:Candy Says?

Neither, I had not realised how many women's names appear on Velvet Underground titles. Still a few to go.

Lisa Says

Sweet Bonnie Brown

Sweet Jane

Sweet Hilary

Sweet Angel's Death Song

This is making me think that perhaps my next question will be to ask what my second favourite Procol Harum track is...

AHB wrote:Sweet Jane

Hurray! Yes. (sorry I have been out searching for the last Boletus Edilus, they are still out there)

Now all we have to do is identify which of the twenty or so versions of 'Sweet Jane' is my favourite. NOOOOOOOOOOO..........

Alex's go

AHB wrote:This is making me think that perhaps my next question will be to ask what my second favourite Procol Harum track is...

Tempting, but no.

I will follow Daniel's recent ancestral theme.

On Friday I helped consume a bottle of 1792 Blandy's Bual.
My great(x7)-grandfather was a painter.

What is the connection between these two apparently disparate statements? Rather than provide clues, I will answer questions with yes/no if such questions are asked.

Was your greatx7 grandfather born in 1792?

DRT wrote:Was your greatx7 grandfather born in 1792?

No

And I think you can ask multiple yes/no questions without having to wait for someone else to guess. The only thing the rules prevent you from doing is having two guesses at the answer without someone else having a guess between your guesses.

Did your greatx7 grandfather paint the stencilled labels on Madeira bottles in 1792?

Did he paint Napoleon?

LGTrotter wrote:Did he paint Napoleon?

Yes he did. Back to you for the next question.

My answer for your next question is "Sweet Angel of Death"

I rather walked into that one.

I assume as a drinker of one of these bottles you have read all the contradictory information about them. It's a great story though and I think one of the great pleasures of Madeira are the stories. I have often been tempted by the bottles with ship names, remarkable to think of life on those ships and drink the wine. Anyway I digress.

What Velvet Underground track is Alex thinking of? (I hope this works and I won't be toyed with until the small hours)

AHB wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:Did he paint Napoleon?

Yes he did. Back to you for the next question.

Crikey. Can you explain a bit more?

LGTrotter wrote:What Velvet Underground track is Alex thinking of? (I hope this works and I won't be toyed with until the small hours)

This time I will guess in alphabetical order!

After Hours?

BLACK ANGEL'S DEATH SONG.

All Tomorrow's Parties?

djewesbury wrote:BLACK ANGEL'S DEATH SONG.

Yes!
Daniel you are a star.

I think it might be sleep depravation but re Alex's ancestor; I immediately thought of the line about 'Churchill he was not a painter, now Hitler there was a painter, a whole apartment , two coats, only one afternoon...'. I think it was the link between despots and painting, but there.

Daniels turn.

DRT wrote:All Tomorrow's Parties?

'And where shall we go and what shall we do when goes offline...'

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote:BLACK ANGEL'S DEATH SONG.

Yes!
Daniel you are a star.

I think it might be sleep depravation but re Alex's ancestor; I immediately thought of the line about 'Churchill he was not a painter, now Hitler there was a painter, a whole apartment , two coats, only one afternoon...'. I think it was the link between despots and painting, but there.

Daniels turn.

But I don't understand what the connection is between 1792 Blandy's Bual and Napoleon, directly. I am quite ignorant of Madeira. Can you inform me?

What am I making today? (apart from placemats)

The story goes that Napoleon, when he was being exiled to St Helena the second time around (after Elba?) Stopped at Madeira on the way. A barrel of 1792 Madeira was put on board but not paid for. Napoleon did not drink any of the wine then died and whichever Mr Blandy it was asked for it back. He got it and bottled it, I think in 1840 something on the birth of Walter Grabham (or was it him telling the story) and that is the wine which Alex the lucky beggar drank. The original story is in 'Madeira an island Vineyard', by Noel Cossart, (there is also a more modern reprint with interesting stuff from Mannie Buerk), but it is somewhat contradicted by ALex Liddel in his more prosaically titled 'Madeira'.

I may have got bits wrong.

Thank you Owen. You really are a mine of information.

Please don't neglect my question: see above.

Won't you be joining us for a tasting at some point? Must we come to Somerset?

Paper aeroplanes?

DRT wrote:Paper aeroplanes?

Have you been watching QI?
No.

LGTrotter wrote:I assume as a drinker of one of these bottles you have read all the contradictory information about them. It's a great story though and I think one of the great pleasures of Madeira are the stories. I have often been tempted by the bottles with ship names, remarkable to think of life on those ships and drink the wine. Anyway I digress.

You are right, there is a massive amount of contradictory information on these bottles...but I don't care. I just love the story and the romance of the idea and the myth associated with drinking a bottle of wine once owned by Napoleon (even if he didn't pay for it) which had been to St Helena and back.

My great(x7)-grandfather is Jacques-Louis David who painted a number of pictures of Napoleon, of which my favourite is this - surely no-one could take themselves that seriously?

djewesbury wrote:What am I making today? (apart from placemats)

Dinner

Daniel's always making dinner. Lettuce braiser to the stars etc. What kind of dinner? I go Elephant au gratin with celeriac remoulade.

AHB wrote:

LGTrotter wrote:I assume as a drinker of one of these bottles you have read all the contradictory information about them. It's a great story though and I think one of the great pleasures of Madeira are the stories. I have often been tempted by the bottles with ship names, remarkable to think of life on those ships and drink the wine. Anyway I digress.

You are right, there is a massive amount of contradictory information on these bottles...but I don't care. I just love the story and the romance of the idea and the myth associated with drinking a bottle of wine once owned by Napoleon (even if he didn't pay for it) which had been to St Helena and back.

My great(x7)-grandfather is Jacques-Louis David who painted a number of pictures of Napoleon, of which my favourite is [http://www.jacqueslouisdavid.org/Portra ... -garb.html]this[/url] - surely no-one could take themselves that seriously?

I always fancied having an equestrian statue in bronze done of me.

As to Madeira I could not agree more. And what wines? so old but so strong.

AHB wrote:My great(x7)-grandfather is Jacques-Louis David

This is simply amazing. I am simply in awe. You are descended from the man who painted the Death of Marat...?? Wow.

THE DEATH OF MARAT???

Sorry to resort to capitals and all that but I just casually said to Em (my wife) 'heard of Jacques-Louis David?' to which she retorted 'What the death of Marat man?' And even I knew that one.

I know we cannot be responsible for our ancestors but this is class.

Sorry. Not dinner. Well, not quite, not really. But you are in the right room.