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Whithorn?

LGTrotter wrote:I had forgotten Daniel has a perverse idea of 'clues'.

Isle of Man

Hmm? Yes.

Fukashima?

djewesbury wrote:Did I forget to mention that all guesses to date have been in the wrong country?

DRT wrote:{knowing that Daniel is wetting himself at the thought that DRT has been suckered into his rouse that the location is on the southern flat bit of Scotland and even more entertained by Owen following the scent and not spotting that DRT is perpetuating a gag that lost its way long ago}

I wasn't wrong.

DRT wrote:Whithorn?

LGTrotter wrote:I had forgotten Daniel has a perverse idea of 'clues'.

Isle of Man

Hmm? Yes.

Fukashima?

You're much closer to the correct latitude.
Somewhere mentioned in The Wasteland was the location for the film.

djewesbury wrote:Did I forget to mention that all guesses to date have been in the wrong country?

That Dreweatts photography catalogue is fascinating. I recommend a browse.

That's it. I have just realised what a senseless waste this is; goodnight, almost, sort of.

Broadwoodwidger

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Did I forget to mention that all guesses to date have been in the wrong country?

That Dreweatts photography catalogue is fascinating. I recommend a browse.

That's it. I have just realised what a senseless waste this is; goodnight, almost, sort of.

Broadwoodwidger

Now now Owen. You were getting very close..

DRT wrote:

djewesbury wrote:Did I forget to mention that all guesses to date have been in the wrong country?

DRT wrote:{knowing that Daniel is wetting himself at the thought that DRT has been suckered into his rouse that the location is on the southern flat bit of Scotland and even more entertained by Owen following the scent and not spotting that DRT is perpetuating a gag that lost its way long ago}

I wasn't wrong.

You were not wrong. But we're back on track now.

Panama?

Where Phlebas came from?

DRT wrote:Panama?

Ah. This is interesting. No: but the right land-mass. And the canal made what I was filming possible.

LGTrotter wrote:Where Phlebas came from?

Phlebas was a Phoenician. No.

djewesbury wrote: Somewhere mentioned in The Wasteland was the location for the film.

If this proves to be another humourous diversion I shall hunt you down and shoot you like a dog.

LGTrotter wrote:

djewesbury wrote: Somewhere mentioned in The Wasteland was the location for the film.

If this proves to be another humourous diversion I shall hunt you down and shoot you like a dog.

Swear to Gawd.

The Dreweatts Port & Wine catalogue is completely blank...
http://www.dnfa.com/media/dreweatts/auctions/13724.pdf

No-one left to guess with, Owen...

As the big D has deserted us perhaps I will suggest that we foregather at some meeter season.

I cannot think of any reference to south or north America in the Wasteland. All sorts of other places. I shall reach down my well thumbed copy and refresh myself tonight. With a little Prufrock thrown in for good measure.

LGTrotter wrote:As the big D has deserted us perhaps I will suggest that we foregather at some meeter season.

I cannot think of any reference to south or north America in the Wasteland. All sorts of other places. I shall reach down my well thumbed copy and refresh myself tonight. With a little Prufrock thrown in for good measure.

And think of the Panama Canal. Night night.

‟I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all”

Mylae.

A lovely guess. My this is getting erudite. No. You'll enjoy the answer when it's gotten. I know you will.
I would love to give another clue, but it's very difficult without giving it away entirely.

Not my turn but I wonder Mr J if you are aware of the work of Baudrillard, I would commend 'simulacra and simulation'. Bring on DJ Jewesbury, the warm up act is wearing thin. I shall be down the front doing 'big box, little box' with glow sticks and a whistle.

LGTrotter wrote:Not my turn but I wonder Mr J if you are aware of the work of Baudrillard, I would commend 'simulacra and simulation'. Bring on DJ Jewesbury, the warm up act is wearing thin. I shall be down the front doing 'big box, little box' with glow sticks and a whistle.

Indeed I am. Uncanny you should mention Baudrillard in this context. His work on simulacra is relevant here.

I’m not sure what the current question is, but to allow somebody another guess, I’ll try ‘Enceladus’.

That's not really fair. Pay attention.

jdaw1 wrote:I’m not sure what the current question is, but to allow somebody another guess, I’ll try ‘Enceladus’.

Had to stop and find out about the sixth largest moon of Saturn...

Forgotten what the other guesses I had tee'd up were, Vienna?

You wasted that one. We're in America remember?

And last night we were in Galloway...

90377 Sedna?



(Which has reminded me to edit Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Natural_sciences#Astronomy to request an article on the Stern”“Levison Parameter Λ.)

Quebec, the only place in America mentioned in the Wasteland and that was in the notes.

Very gallant of you, Julian. In fact, you probably know the answer to this.

Owen: think laterally. Think of the Panama Canal, think of the Wasteland, think of America. Think of Baudrillard and the American desert. Think of simulacra.

Isla Santa Cruz?

DRT wrote:Isla Santa Cruz?

Not quite, but nearly!

San Cristóbal Island ?

Lima?

Given the scope for guesswork I have been given and the random misdirection I might as well stick a pin in the map.

Can't find a map so Tomsk.

I give up. I set a really good question with perfectly legible clues, and we even have a Wasteland expert (so to speak) here.
I'm going off in a huff.
Tomsk. Indeed.
The crowds did not flow across Waterloo Bridge, did they!

djewesbury wrote:The crowds did not flow across Waterloo Bridge, did they!

There were no crowds when I drove across it at 6pm this evening.

You haven't answered our guesses. And your clues are rubbish.

Just so our huffy quizmaster appreciates the lengths we go to here is a summation of my thinking.

First and foremost I assume that you do not mean 'The Waste Land' by Thomas Stearns Eliot because it is spelt like that rather than 'Wasteland'. This and your reference to thinking laterally and America lead me to the Tony Hawks (not the radio 4 bloke; the skater) game entitled 'the American Wasteland'. Set in California I toyed briefly with this guess before setting my face against it because Daniel does not strike me immediately as skater/slacker/gamer material. I then returned to the original Waste Land by our mate Tom and considered if any of the numerous places mentioned (London, The isle of Dogs, King William Street, Vienna, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, the several sites of antiquity) were also in America; as in Paris, Texas. Moving along swiftly to the Panama idea I was tempted by the Darien Gap as a first rate wasteland, but could not think of how this related to any of the other ideas set out.

And then I gave up and came up with the deliberately vexatious guess of Tomsk.

Omsk?

DRT wrote:You haven't answered our guesses. And your clues are rubbish.

Or I could have put it like this and saved myself some typing.

DRT wrote:

djewesbury wrote:The crowds did not flow across Waterloo Bridge, did they!

There were no crowds when I drove across it at 6pm this evening.

You haven't answered our guesses. And your clues are rubbish.

My clues are quite excellent. But the dullness of the competitors is quite frightening.

LGTrotter wrote:Just so our huffy quizmaster appreciates the lengths we go to here is a summation of my thinking.

First and foremost I assume that you do not mean 'The Waste Land' by Thomas Stearns Eliot because it is spelt like that rather than 'Wasteland'. This and your reference to thinking laterally and America lead me to the Tony Hawks (not the radio 4 bloke; the skater) game entitled 'the American Wasteland'. Set in California I toyed briefly with this guess before setting my face against it because Daniel does not strike me immediately as skater/slacker/gamer material. I then returned to the original Waste Land by our mate Tom and considered if any of the numerous places mentioned (London, The isle of Dogs, King William Street, Vienna, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, the several sites of antiquity) were also in America; as in Paris, Texas. Moving along swiftly to the Panama idea I was tempted by the Darien Gap as a first rate wasteland, but could not think of how this related to any of the other ideas set out.

And then I gave up and came up with the deliberately vexatious guess of Tomsk.

Omsk?

The Waste Land.

What did the crowds flow across?

Under the brown fog of a winter dawn..?
A crowd?
So many?

DRT wrote:Lima?

NO

LGTrotter wrote:I then returned to the original Waste Land by our mate Tom and considered if any of the numerous places mentioned (London, The isle of Dogs, King William Street, Vienna, Lithuania, Russia, Germany, the several sites of antiquity) were also in America

Yes, they are.

AW77 wrote:San Cristóbal Island ?

NOOOO!!!

And I haven't mentioned the idea of the wasteland set out in Jessie Weston's 'From ritual to Romance' with it 's exploration of the grail myth. Or some other stuff which inhabited my head in a somewhat distracting manner today at work, rather than doing what I should have been doing; working out how to explain to aliens what human conciousness is about.

Derek's jokes are never funny. I know you all know the answers and are PMing each other. If someone does not guess the correct answer immediately I will give the answer away.

djewesbury wrote:Under the brown fog of a winter dawn..?
A crowd?
So many?

I'm sorry Daniel but I draw the line at the possibility that you filmed in the realm of the dead.

Owen is disqualified.

Tuesday?

You said you wanted a guess; you didn't say meaningful. Anyway, I'm not sure I want to join in a quiz where I have to guess random places in the world.

AHB wrote:Tuesday?

You said you wanted a guess; you didn't say meaningful. Anyway, I'm not sure I want to join in a quiz where I have to guess random places in the world.

You're not guessing random places in the world. The clues are:

It's in America
it's a location mentioned in The Waste Land
Simulacra are relevant
The Panama Canal was important somehow
Crowds flowed across it under the brown fog of a winter dawn.

I give up.

Vladivostok.

Correct answer!

Derek's turn.