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Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 10:45 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
Julian,

+ SCP
+ Malvedos 78

I'll advise which bottle to credit SCP in due course.

Am happy to have first bash over the weekend if you are getting fed-up with changes!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:02 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
RAYC wrote:+ Malvedos 78
Space will be getting tighter, the radius dropping from an already-tight 116.261 to an even-tighter 115.326. Are you yet ready to accept 4×A4?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:16 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
This shouldn't require any amendment to the existing A3 page (other than working out how to order ports so that we have old-young consistency - either left to right in columns or top to bottom in rows - don't know which is preferred).

The A4 page can be put on A3, with a 2-3-2 format at left hand side (i can either guillotine the remainder of the A3 page that isn't needed or simply arrange layout so that the other A3 page is placed on top). The layout of the two A3 sheets would then fit nicely when placed alongside each other.

4xA4 is better avoided, if possible, given the size of table and number of attendees. (plus 22 doesn't divide by 4 particularly well). But i don't want to be unduly awkward.

Probably better if i do a hand drawing and email you. You can then tell me if it's impossible!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:30 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Sixteen on A4 is best in four rows.

My understanding is that you want a ‘combined’ effect, so that the top-left is the oldest, getting younger across the top row, then back to left side of second row, and so on.

Is that correct?

Do you have a larger paper size? I could do a different page size, perhaps non-standard which you then trim.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:37 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
Let's make this easy! (i.e. i stop making comments without knowing what i am talking about)

We have 22 ports

Happy for this to be 2 x A3 or 4 x A4, or 2 x A3 with one page being trimmed / tucked under the other, or whatever in your long experience of making these looks good!

A combined effect might be nice, but could be columnar (LH column oldest - RH column youngest) rather than by row (i don't have a strong feeling either way - except for at Tom's olympic tasting, is columnar how we usually do it?)

You are good at these, you hereby have authority to make whatever decisions you think fit and i'll shut up!

(but we should include Malvedos in the title)

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:47 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
Please credit 1970 to SCP

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:48 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
RAYC wrote:We have 22 ports
ET23?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:50 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
jdaw1 wrote:
RAYC wrote:We have 22 ports
ET23?
I still count 22...

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 15:01 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
OK. I have a plan. It is a cunning plan.
RAYC wrote:I still count 22...
But for how long?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 15:16 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote:OK. I have a plan. It is a cunning plan.
Does it involve one participant with six sheets of A4 with bottle-size rings, and 13 other participants with a sheet of A4 each and a set of thimbles? :D

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 15:32 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Not quite. The extra bottles entailed by the plan wouldn’t fit on just six sheets of A4.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 16:59 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by PhilW
jdaw1 wrote:Not quite. The extra bottles entailed by the plan wouldn’t fit on just six sheets of A4.
I wonder how many sheets it would take for a Melchizedek, oddly enough I don't have one to measure the diameter of...

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 17:20 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
PhilW wrote:I wonder how many sheets it would take for a Melchizedek
To the best of my knowledge, despite the show 15L G94 in the lodge, Graham haven’t bottled above 9L.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 19:11 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
SCP wrote:Simon
Are you left or right handed?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 19:24 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Updated draft of the placemats.
  • +SCP;
  • +GM78;
  • There is a bug in the calculation of where to place the person’s name. This will be fixed later this evening. (Musing how to do it. A recently added feature, jolly useful, rather broke the old calculation.)
  • Please comment otherwise.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 20:46 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Updated draft of the placemats.
  • Bug fixed.
  • +‟Malevdos” in the centred header.
Two A3 pages, right being only partly filled so going under left.
Image Image

TN sheets run in date order, with five or six on each.

Happily, SCP is right handed. Indeed, everybody at this tasting is right handed.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:57 Fri 09 Nov 2012
by RAYC
Very nice - thank you.

Minor comments:

- Date/location and theme headers seem to be the other way around than usual. Would probably prefer theme heading in centre

- should the theme heading be in the gap between the 60 and 63 rather than 55 and 60? Don't feel strongly.

- do you want to retain initials on right hand page?

In addition, on reflection it occurred to me that 85 crusted was bottled before both the 1985 VP and the 1984 VP. Given this extra bottle age, where should it appear in the line-up? (i'm tempted to leave where it is, or possibly before the 85 VP only if preferred by jdaw1, but any purists should shout)

NB i will aim to print on Sunday night, when i can do so without detection....!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 04:07 Sat 10 Nov 2012
by RAYC
jdaw1 wrote:
PhilW wrote:I wonder how many sheets it would take for a Melchizedek
To the best of my knowledge, despite the show 15L G94 in the lodge, Graham haven’t bottled above 9L.
A 15litre bottle of G2000 was sold at Christie's this week!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 09:08 Sat 10 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Updated draft of the placemats.
  • RAYC wrote:- Date/location and theme headers seem to be the other way around than usual. Would probably prefer theme heading in centre
  • RAYC wrote:In addition, on reflection it occurred to me that 85 crusted was bottled before both the 1985 VP and the 1984 VP. Given this extra bottle age, where should it appear in the line-up? (i'm tempted to leave where it is, or possibly before the 85 VP only if preferred by jdaw1, but any purists should shout)
    The 1985s switched.
Not done:
RAYC wrote:- should the theme heading be in the gap between the 60 and 63 rather than 55 and 60? Don't feel strongly.
Maybe it should, but software doesn’t do that easily.

Not done:
RAYC wrote:- do you want to retain initials on right hand page?
Yes.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 09:08 Sat 10 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
RAYC wrote:A 15litre bottle of G2000 was sold at Christie's this week!
Silly: I knew that, and then forgot it.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 14:55 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Updated draft of the placemats. Edit: the pre-pour sheets are in a non-obvious order. Hmm: that’s not easy to fix. So, this time at least, tough.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 19:36 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by griff
griff wrote:Could I trouble people for decanting advice for the 77? Past experience has been fairly long (24 hours plus) demonstrating benefit. Any thoughts?
Gentlemen?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 20:35 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by DRT
Sorry, I missed this first time around. I agree that G77 benefits from a long decant - it can be very hot and disjointed in the first few hours. 24 hours doesn't sound like a bad plan to me.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:13 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
The parameters used are in the thread Parameters for the placemat software.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:18 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by RAYC
jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats. Edit: the pre-pour sheets are in a non-obvious order. Hmm: that’s not easy to fix. So, this time at least, tough.
very good - many thanks!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:43 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by griff
DRT wrote:Sorry, I missed this first time around. I agree that G77 benefits from a long decant - it can be very hot and disjointed in the first few hours. 24 hours doesn't sound like a bad plan to me.
Thank you. Will do.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:45 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by griff
jdaw1 wrote:Updated draft of the placemats. Edit: the pre-pour sheets are in a non-obvious order. Hmm: that’s not easy to fix. So, this time at least, tough.
For me this surpasses even the Olympic event as a picture.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:54 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
griff wrote:For me this surpasses even the Olympic event as a picture.
A Cockburn vertical in 2008 also had good placemats:
Image Image

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:06 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by griff
In quantity certainly but perhaps not in quality. I have a preference for the Graham placemats due to both the variety of bottlings shown as well as the more innovative use of the second sheet.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:07 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by RAYC
jdaw1 wrote:
griff wrote:For me this surpasses even the Olympic event as a picture.
A Cockburn vertical in 2008 also had good placemats
I wasn't there, but the photos do make me slightly nostalgic about that tunnel at TCP! (even with the damp-stained walls...)

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:53 Sun 11 Nov 2012
by jdaw1

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:24 Mon 12 Nov 2012
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote: Image
Perhaps the best A3 of vintages we have ever had. (Plus Ck70 and Ck77 from the page that followed)

Should we do it again?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:42 Mon 12 Nov 2012
by DRT
I just showed the Somelier at my hotel what I will be drinking tomorrow evening. He almost fell over.

I am very much looking forward to this tasting. :D

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 22:46 Mon 12 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Did you explain that you would be helped? Or did he think that you would be drinking all 17¼ litres yourself. (He is the sommelier at your hotel he has probably seen you in action before.)

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 23:05 Mon 12 Nov 2012
by Alex Bridgeman
I have just made a late decision to stay in London tomorrow night. See you all at about 7pm.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 23:33 Mon 12 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
In the thread [url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=53076#p53076]Parameters for the placemat software[/url] jdaw1 wrote:Tuesday 13th November 2012, A Smattering of Graham and Malvedos (placemats, planning and arrangements).
Image
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• The layout on the A3 glasses pages was unusual. The problem was a shortage of table space. We just didn’t have room for 2×A3 each, but the 22 glasses wouldn’t quite fit on 1×A3 + 1×A4. So two A3s were to be used, the right one to be trimmed and the whole held together with double-sided sticky tape. That meant !

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 00:42 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by RAYC
AHB wrote:I have just made a late decision to stay in London tomorrow night. See you all at about 7pm.
Is that because you divided 23 by 14 and realised this could be some task (even allowing for a couple of duffers), or because you now need to be on parade on Wednesday morning...?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 00:47 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by DRT
RAYC wrote:
AHB wrote:I have just made a late decision to stay in London tomorrow night. See you all at about 7pm.
Is that because you divided 23 by 14 and realised this could be some task (even allowing for a couple of duffers), or because you now need to be on parade on Wednesday morning...?
23/14 rounded down is 1 bottle per person. Anyone who has been in training shouldn't have a problem with that.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 09:10 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by griff
77 decanted at 9pm last night in case I forget. The hue is darker than I remember.

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 09:14 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by RAYC
If you can (and you remember), please bring cork!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 10:52 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by Cynthia J
The placemats are a thing of beauty and joy... I am impressed! My two bottles of mystery port and I have arrived safely in London - I assume we will be tasting those off-piste? Or if you choose not to open them tonight someone can put them in a cellar somewhere for another occasion. See you tonight!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 11:07 Tue 13 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
Cynthia J wrote:The placemats are a thing of beauty and joy
Please may I add that to the placemat manual page?

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 20:29 Wed 14 Nov 2012
by Cynthia J
Please may I add that to the placemat manual page?
Absolutely. Wonderful tasting last night too - congratulations again to Rob on his birthday as well as organising a great event, it was great to see everyone again. Thank you!

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 18:10 Thu 15 Nov 2012
by RAYC

Re: Tuesday 13 November - a smattering of Graham and Malvedo

Posted: 21:01 Thu 15 Nov 2012
by jdaw1
I was just about to make the threads: thank you.