Warm-up for the BFT: Something nice from the 60s

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 10:33 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Date: 08 May, 2018, 1830
Location: RAF Club

Max Persons: 14, closed, waiting list, if neccessary

Axel P (H62)
Wolfgang G. (F63)
Wolfgang S. (Avery 63)
Flash (W63)
forest 26 (F66)
idj (T66)
cpr (CR60)
JDAW (F60)
Christopher (No66)
Caprica (D63)
Elsa (D GW 63)
Phil W (T63)
Sten (S63)
Jörgen (Feist63)

Instructions to join:
Address: 128 Picadilly (right across Green Park). Hodges room. Since this is a military club, there are certain rules: You do not need to wear a tie as we have a private function, but without a tie you cannot move everywhere in the club. Please DO NOT BRING GLASSES as we are hiring glasses. Depending on the space available (also with the dinner), we will try to pre-pour all Ports up front to have all glasses in front of us.

Menue will be:

Cream of leek & potato
Steak kidney and mushroom pie or pudding
Traditional roast potatoes
Selection of vegetables
Sherry trifle
Coffee and petits fours

Please advise if anyone has dietary requirements.

I will collect 90 GBP from everyone.

The placemats (and parameters by which made).

Post by **flash_uk** » 10:52 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Count me in Axel. Will need to check but think it could be a Warre '63.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 11:25 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Yes please - Ill decide what to bring nearer the time.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 13:03 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Yes please Axel-count me in (will decide on bottle nearer the time).

CPR 1 · Post by **CPR 1** » 13:16 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Yes please - I think I will bring Croft 60

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:32 Mon 05 Mar 2018

Yes please.

Would people prefer Fonseca 1960 or Cockburn 1967?

(This event is cruel to Alex, who will e too busy.)

Doggett · Post by **Doggett** » 06:58 Tue 06 Mar 2018

I would love to attend but will be saving myself for the big event the next day. Enjoy and I shall look forward to see you all bright eyed the next morning.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:01 Tue 06 Mar 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:32 Mon 05 Mar 2018 Would people prefer Fonseca 1960 or Cockburn 1967?

I would vote for F60.

Sadly this is cruel to Alex, although he will have a great time as well with the producers, I hope. This is at least what I am doing on the eve of an event.

Caparica · Post by **Caparica** » 15:27 Fri 09 Mar 2018

Hi Axel,
I would like to attend if still possible.
will decide on bottle nearer the time

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 17:07 Fri 09 Mar 2018

Please add me to the list. A great venue if we can get the room upstairs.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:55 Thu 15 Mar 2018

Done, will be the Hodges room upstairs.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:00 Thu 15 Mar 2018

Doggett wrote: ↑06:58 Tue 06 Mar 2018 I would love to attend but will be saving myself for the big event the next day. Enjoy and I shall look forward to see you all bright eyed the next morning.

Port drinkers dont get drunk - they get fortified. You wouldnt want to see me without this event the night prior.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 13:56 Thu 15 Mar 2018

We have one very nice industry guest...

Post by **PhilW** » 14:02 Thu 15 Mar 2018

Axel; please mark me down as tentative? Thanks.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:54 Fri 23 Mar 2018

The industry guest told me at ProWein to bring his/her 1963 Port. It has not been chosen by others yet.

Best

Axel

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 08:53 Sat 24 Mar 2018

PhilW wrote: ↑14:02 Thu 15 Mar 2018 Axel; please mark me down as tentative? Thanks.

Phil,

can you please confirm you are coming? If so I will bring one of my few left Averys 63 as you wanted to try that.

regards

WS1

Post by **PhilW** » 08:20 Tue 27 Mar 2018

WS1 wrote: ↑08:53 Sat 24 Mar 2018Phil ... can you please confirm you are coming? If so I will bring one of my few left Averys 63 as you wanted to try that.

Wolfgang - that would me most excellent - thank you; I can now confirm my attendance. With Wolfgang bringing an Av63, I will in that case bring a T63 since it is our understanding that the Av63 was comprised of F63/S63/T63 in 2:2:1 ratio, and it would be good to taste the components alongside if that were possible. In that vein, since we already have the F63 and T63, if anyone else were willing and able to bring a S63 then please do!

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 14:46 Tue 27 Mar 2018

I d be happy to swap the Niepoort for Sandmean

WS1 · Post by **WS1** » 11:41 Wed 28 Mar 2018

PhilW wrote: ↑08:20 Tue 27 Mar 2018
WS1 wrote: ↑08:53 Sat 24 Mar 2018Phil ... can you please confirm you are coming? If so I will bring one of my few left Averys 63 as you wanted to try that.
Wolfgang - that would me most excellent - thank you; I can now confirm my attendance. With Wolfgang bringing an Av63, I will in that case bring a T63 since it is our understanding that the Av63 was comprised of F63/S63/T63 in 2:2:1 ratio, and it would be good to taste the components alongside if that were possible. In that vein, since we already have the F63 and T63, if anyone else were willing and able to bring a S63 then please do!

Hi Phil,

no worries; since I do not have that many left and I stumbled over a bt the other day I thought about it being drunk at the warm up tasting for Alex first BFT.

From my sources the composition of the Averys blend was 3 parts Sandeman, 2 parts Taylor and 1 part Fonseca 1963 so 3:2:1. Can we find out to be sure? EDN I am sure should know or knew as friends with John Avery before he sadly died. Sandeman 1963 is a great port and if possible let us include it!

regards

WS1

Post by **PhilW** » 13:26 Wed 28 Mar 2018

WS1 wrote: ↑11:41 Wed 28 Mar 2018From my sources the composition of the Averys blend was 3 parts Sandeman, 2 parts Taylor and 1 part Fonseca 1963 so 3:2:1. Can we found out to be sure?

I made contact with the Avery family last year (thanks to help from Julian and contacts in the Wine Industry), I was hoping to find out further information about the blends of that and other years, with the plan for a tasting of 2 or three Avery ports alongside their component parts, but unfortunately after initially positive contact I then didn't receive further reply, and not wanting to be intrusive I left it at that; I might send another email now, and then leave it there if I don't hear further. I think having the chance to try the '63 alongside its components whatever their original ratio will be very interesting though, and I look forward to it.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:24 Fri 30 Mar 2018

Since my Ni63 is needed in April I tend to bring a Harvey 1962 for this tasting, but could also bring a Sandeman 63. comments please

Post by **PhilW** » 07:31 Fri 30 Mar 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑07:24 Fri 30 Mar 2018 Since my Ni63 is needed in April I tend to bring a Harvey 1962 for this tasting, but could also bring a Sandeman 63. comments please

Sandeman 63 please! (so we can do the Avery components comparison).

Post by **PhilW** » 08:41 Thu 12 Apr 2018

PhilW wrote: ↑07:31 Fri 30 Mar 2018
Axel P wrote: ↑07:24 Fri 30 Mar 2018 Since my Ni63 is needed in April I tend to bring a Harvey 1962 for this tasting, but could also bring a Sandeman 63. comments please
Sandeman 63 please! (so we can do the Avery components comparison).

Having heard from Axel that his S63 is not of sufficient condition to make the trip for this tasting, if anyone else has access to a S63 please consider bringing it or allowing someone else to adopt it, as it would be a shame not to be able to taste the component wines alongside the (rare) Avery.

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 21:24 Thu 12 Apr 2018

Count us in!
Sten & Jörgen

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 22:14 Thu 12 Apr 2018

Would people prefer Feist 1963 or Croft 1966?

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 22:30 Thu 12 Apr 2018

Very interesting with two blended bottles the same evening! I did't know that Averys 1963 was a blend. I presume you all know that Harvey's 1962 is a blend of Cockburn and Martinez.

It would be fabulous to have the Sandeman 1963 at the same time if that is possible! Having the components of Harvey's would be quite impossible i'm afraid.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:09 Fri 13 Apr 2018

JB vintage wrote: ↑21:24 Thu 12 Apr 2018 Count us in!
Sten & Jörgen

Great!

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:10 Fri 13 Apr 2018

JB vintage wrote: ↑22:14 Thu 12 Apr 2018 Would people prefer Feist 1963 or Croft 1966?

If you are both attending? Both?

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 07:27 Fri 13 Apr 2018

Sign-up has now closed with 14 persons present.

Instructions to join:
Address: 128 Picadilly (right across Green Park). Hodges room. Since this is a military club, there are certain rules: You do not need to wear a tie as we have a private function, but without a tie you cannot move everywhere in the club. Please bring 7 proper Port glasses as we group the Ports into two flights. You will be responsible for decanting your bottle. If you like to drop the bottle off prior, please let me know and I will arrange this.

Menue will be:

Cream of leek & potato
Steak kidney and mushroom pie or pudding
Traditional roast potatoes
Selection of vegetables
Sherry trifle
Coffee and petits fours

Please advise if anyone has dietary requirements.

I will collect 70 GBP from everyone.

idj123 · Post by **idj123** » 12:16 Fri 13 Apr 2018

I have but one bottle of S63 which I believe to be in good condition and so in the absence of anyone with a bigger population of S63 volunteering then I would be prepared to bring this.

Christopher · Post by **Christopher** » 17:54 Fri 13 Apr 2018

I will bring a bottle of Noval 66.

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 15:11 Sat 14 Apr 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑07:10 Fri 13 Apr 2018
JB vintage wrote: ↑22:14 Thu 12 Apr 2018 Would people prefer Feist 1963 or Croft 1966?
If you are both attending? Both?

Yes we are both attending but these were options from my cellar. Sten will select from his cellar. I will bring Feist as this is rare in the UK as far as I understand.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:19 Sat 14 Apr 2018

Alex B. was born in 1963, and has tasted many (many!) 1963s. He might never had had the Fs63. Please could it be saved for an evening which he could attend? (Or, if you have enough of them, would you be willing to sell one for me to give him?)

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:26 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Up to the Swedish group of what to bring. For now I could you in for Feist and Sandeman 63. Thank you

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 09:13 Sun 15 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:19 Sat 14 Apr 2018 Alex B. was born in 1963, and has tasted many (many!) 1963s. He might never had had the Fs63. Please could it be saved for an evening which he could attend? (Or, if you have enough of them, would you be willing to sell one for me to give him?)

I have another bottle for Alex B

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 09:14 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑08:26 Sun 15 Apr 2018 Up to the Swedish group of what to bring. For now I could you in for Feist and Sandeman 63. Thank you

We will bring Feist and Sandeman 1963

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 09:25 Sun 15 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑22:19 Sat 14 Apr 2018 Alex B. was born in 1963, and has tasted many (many!) 1963s. He might never had had the Fs63. Please could it be saved for an evening which he could attend? (Or, if you have enough of them, would you be willing to sell one for me to give him?)

He hasn’t, or had not last time I attended your tastings and I have reserved one bottle for him.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 13:20 Sun 15 Apr 2018

JB vintage wrote: ↑09:25 Sun 15 Apr 2018 He hasn’t, or had not last time I attended your tastings and I have reserved one bottle for him.

Great, so all works out nicely...

Post by **PhilW** » 13:57 Sun 15 Apr 2018

You currently have me bringing the Av63 which is not correct; it's Wolfgang S bringing the Av63, with myself bringing a T63 (one of the components) - unless Ian has a T63 (I need to make sure I can find mine!) in which case I have another alternative.

JB vintage · Post by **JB vintage** » 14:23 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Axel,
Sten will bring the Sandeman 63 and I, Jörgen, will bring Feist 63. You have noted vice verca.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 20:31 Sun 15 Apr 2018

Changed

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:55 Wed 18 Apr 2018

Can all participants please email me their full name for the Reception to axelprobst@worldofport.de?

Thank you

Post by **PhilW** » 07:14 Thu 19 Apr 2018

PhilW wrote: ↑13:57 Sun 15 Apr 2018 You currently have me bringing the Av63 which is not correct; it's Wolfgang S bringing the Av63, with myself bringing a T63 (one of the components) - unless Ian has a T63 (I need to make sure I can find mine!) in which case I have another alternative.

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:35 Fri 20 Apr 2018

Draft of the placemats added to first post. Some Ports not yet revealed. Some initials unknown. Work to be done.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 11:48 Sat 21 Apr 2018

Thanks, Julian, once I have the data of all Ports, I will group them into two flights and ask you to adjust the placemats.

forest26 · Post by **forest26** » 10:29 Tue 24 Apr 2018

Hi Axel
F66 from me.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 10:36 Tue 24 Apr 2018

Updated.

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:13 Tue 24 Apr 2018

JB vintage wrote: ↑09:14 Sun 15 Apr 2018We will bring Feist and Sandeman 1963

idj123 wrote: ↑12:16 Fri 13 Apr 2018I have but one bottle of S63 which I believe to be in good condition and so in the absence of anyone with a bigger population of S63 volunteering then I would be prepared to bring this.

Please confirm that we have 2×S63. (I’m not objecting, merely seeking confirmation.)

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:30 Tue 24 Apr 2018

Axel P wrote: ↑10:33 Mon 05 Mar 2018Caprica (D63)

Initials? Right- or left-handed?

And please could somebody check the placemats.

Post by **flash_uk** » 22:32 Tue 24 Apr 2018

jdaw1 wrote: ↑21:30 Tue 24 Apr 2018 And please could somebody check the placemats.

The thirteen bottles look correct to me. I couldn’t quite tell if Axel’s post here was suggesting that a bottle was being brought on behalf of the industry guest, in which case there is a bottle missing. And will the guest take the blank placemat?