1994s, Tue 16 Nov 2021

[jdaw1]

This post to hold plans as and when agreed.

Date: Tue 16 Nov 2021

Where: The Red Room, Boot & Flogger. (Reservation acknowledged and accepted by Gary at 15:07 on Wed 31 Mar 2021. Confirmed by the computer Tue 07 Sep 2021, “14 people on Tuesday 16 November 5pm to 11pm … reference: DMN-16738297119”.)

People:

1. JDAW;
2. SCD;
3. HTWH;
4. TC;
5. AHB;
6. CPR;
7. MPM;
8. ZDR;
9. WHW;
10. RON;
11. IDJ;
12. GEAG;
13. NAC;
14. CMAG.

Waitlist:

• GEE.

Bottles available, a subset of which chosen:

1. Burmester — WHW;
2. Cá = Cálem — JMK, HWH;
3. Ck = Cockburn — IDJ, HWH;
4. Cr = Croft — TC, HWH;
5. Df = Delaforce — IDJ;
6. D = Dow — JMK, WHW, CPR, GEAG, GEE;
7. EV = Eira Velha — CPR, HWH;
8. Fr = Ferreira — WHW;
9. F = Fonseca — GEE, TC, PW (inconvenient);
10. GC = Gould Campbell — GEAG, NAC;
11. G = Graham — JMK, WHW, CPR, PW (inconvenient), GEE, GEE (magnum), HWH, HWH (magnum);
12. K = Kopke — CPR;
13. Mz = Martinez — AHB, HWH;
14. Ni = Niepoort — WHW, HWH, PW cask sample in ½;
15. N = Noval — JMK, GEE;
16. NN = Noval Nacional — TC;
17. Ps = Passadouro — NAC, HWH;
18. P&W = Paxton & Whitfield — AHB;
19. QH = Quarles Harris — HWH;
20. RP = Ramos Pinto — WHW, GEE;
21. RPE = Ramos Pinto Ervamoira — CPR;
22. Ra = Romaneira — WHW;
23. Rs = Rosa — GEAG, PW, NAC;
24. RO = Royal Oporto — PW;
25. S = Sandeman — JMK, HWH;
26. SW = Smith Woodhouse — GEAG;
27. Ts = Tesco (QH?) — JMK;
28. T = Taylor — JMK, GEAG, GEE (magnum), NAC, NAC (magnum);
29. V = Vesuvio — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), GEE;
30. W = Warre — GEAG, PW (inconvenient), HWH, HWH (double-magnum).

Current draft of the placemats.

[jdaw1]

My recollection of the 1994 disagrees with that of others whose judgement I respect. You know what this means.

Tuesday 16th November 2021?

Edit — previous 1994 horizontals:

• 11 June 2019 (review, planning, placemats);
• 04 Mar 2014 (review, planning);
• 08 Sep 2009 (review, planning, placemats);
• 11 Dec 2007 (review, planning, placemats).

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How big a tasting? The binding constraint might be table size. The Red Room table is tight with fourteen × 3 × A4. If there are nineteen glasses we can use A3 + A4, underlapping the A4 by ≈64mm. (Radius ≈ 118.978pt ≈ 1.65″ ≈ 41.97mm.)



Or twenty-one on A2 trimmed to be 1″ = 25.4mm taller than A4, and 86.0mm ≈ 3.39″ less wide than 3×A4. (Radius ≈ 122.841pt ≈ 1.71″ ≈ 43.34mm.)



Original plan was nineteen; later upgraded to twenty-one.

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Which Ports?

This part of the post will be edited as the set of available Ports changes.

Currently available are 30 different 1994s: B, Cá, Ck, Cr, Df, D, EV, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, N, NN, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Ra, Rs, RO, S, SW, Ts, T, V, W.

Wine-Searcher suggests that availability is:
Good — Ck, Cr, D, F (expensive), G, QH, Rs, SW, T, V, W;
Some — Df, GC, Ni, N (expensive), NN (expensive), Ps, RP, S, Sk;
Little — B, Cá, EV, Fr, K, RPE, Ra, RO, Ts.

• Exclude NN on grounds of cost.
• So prioritise the RP-RPE pair over the N-NN pair (also see comment of GEAG).
• The purported Skeffington has already been drunk (!), and has been replaced with Kopke.
• General agreement to remove pre-Symington Cockburn, it being replaced with Cálem.
• Team seemed keen on Mz; and I on Fr.

Updated selection: Cá, Cr, Df, D, Fr, F, GC, G, K, Mz, Ni, Ps, QH, RP, RPE, Rs, SW, S, T, V, W.

Comment? Agreement? Objections?

[Doggett]

Yes please...will check bottles

[PhilW]

yes please

[forest26]

Yes please

[jdaw1]

Dates switched Thu to Tue.

[Alex Bridgeman]

Yes please.

[CPR 1]

yes please

[flash_uk]

yup

[Alex Bridgeman]

Justin says "yes please" but he's blocked from accessing TPF.

[Will W.]

I'm in.

[Glenn E.]

Yes, provisionally. It is difficult to predict my international travel availability this far in advance.

[rich_n]

Yes, provisionally!

[Doggett]

Ian Johns says yes please

[Doggett]

George and Neil also are available and say yes please...

[jdaw1]

Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?

[winesecretary]

I have Dow, Gould Campbell, Quinta de la Rosa, Smith Woodhouse, Taylor, Vesuvio, Warre

[CPR 1]

Full. What bottles of ’94 do people have available?

Ramos Pinto - Quinta da Ervamoira, G, D, Erica Velha, Kopke

[Will W.]

Dow's
Ramos Pinto
Burmester
Ferreira
Graham's
Romaneira

Piles of the Graham's, Burmester and Romaneira. The rest are single bottles, according to my cellar list.

[jdaw1]

Justin sends that he has: Cálem, Dow, Graham, Noval, Sandeman, Tesco, Taylor.

[PhilW]

RO94, Ni94 cask sample in half bottle; W/F/V/G currently unopened in offsite but potentially possible.

[PhilW]

oh and QdlR94

[Glenn E.]

Dow
Fonseca
Graham (750, magnum)
Ramos Pinto
Taylor (in magnum only)
Quinta do Noval
Quinta do Vesuvio

I may have others, but those are the ones that come to mind immediately.

[Glenn E.]

Edited the above to add: Quinta do Noval

[akzy]

Yes please.