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Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 18:56 Fri 27 Nov 2009
by jdaw1
Question needing an answer by Saturday. For nine adults at a slightly belated Thanksgiving lunch to be held on Sunday (Brit, Paris, not the official day of Thanksgiving: I am not interested in hearing it) I will be serving three bottles of reasonable fake champagne, several bottles of an acceptable Bordeaux, and then three bottles of 1985 port. But which three, from:
- Churchill;
- Dow;
- Fonseca;
- Graham;
- Martinez;
- Ramos-Pinto;
- Royal Oporto;
- Smith Woodhouse;
- Souza;
- Taylor?
I reckon it’s too late for the Dow, and the Fonseca is for experienced port drinkers. That leaves eight: which three of those?
(In Paris I have two of the Churchill, and one of each of the others.)
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 19:03 Fri 27 Nov 2009
by mosesbotbol
If I were there, this is what I would want you to open:
Martinez
Smith Woodhouse
Royal Oporto
For my own selfish reasons I would want port I have not tried, even if at the expensive of the others potential enjoyment.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 19:09 Fri 27 Nov 2009
by jdaw1
mosesbotbol wrote:Martinez
Smith Woodhouse
Royal Oporto
That’s one of the two likely to be terrible (these aren’t port people), and two reasonable drinking ports. That is very sensible.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 23:06 Fri 27 Nov 2009
by DRT
1. Churchill
2. Ramos-Pinto
3. Royal Oporto
1 because you have two of them and it will probably be pleasing to you. 2 and 3 because your guests will more than likely include French people who are unlikely to appreciate the alternatives.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 23:48 Fri 27 Nov 2009
by jdaw1
RP85 thoroughly acceptable though (
1,
2,
3,
4,
5).
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 02:31 Sat 28 Nov 2009
by mosesbotbol
I am unfamiliar with Souza? What's the story of the brand.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 09:11 Sat 28 Nov 2009
by SCP-DFF
DRT wrote:1. Churchill
2. Ramos-Pinto
3. Royal Oporto
Good choices. That's what I would go for as well. Will let you all know how they are and how they were received.
SCP-DFF.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 19:10 Sat 28 Nov 2009
by Glenn E.
1. Churchill
2. Martinez
3. Ramos Pinto
The Graham, like the Fonseca, is for experts. The Churchill would be as well except that you have two and can afford to treat your guests to something special.
I wouldn't serve the Souza or Royal Oporto, because you want to serve something good just in case these particular French are open minded and might become converts. Martinez and Ramos Pinto are fine Ports and perfectly acceptable. Smith Woodhouse borders on Churchill/Dow/Fonseca/Graham quality and so would probably be wasted. Taylor is a bit unpredictable in 1985, so would be risky though otherwise perfectly acceptable.
Re: Which three 1985s should be opened for Sunday lunch?
Posted: 10:56 Sun 29 Nov 2009
by jdaw1
Supreme Commander Port-Drinking Forces France approved the plan of Air Commodore Turnbull. Hence: