1936 Massandra (Ukraine)

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1936 Massandra (Ukraine)

Post by DRT » 22:19 Sat 12 Jul 2008

"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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1936 Massandra Livadia

Post by jdaw1 » 00:04 Tue 15 Jul 2008

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1936 Massandra Livadia

Post by jdaw1 » 00:11 Tue 15 Jul 2008

Orangey brown. Did the nose have apricots? Certainly sugar. even more certainly it was odd. AHB rightly described the nose as metallic. To taste marmalade, with so much sugar, and even more huge amounts of tannin. So much tannin in a 72-year-old thing of little repute! An odd creature.

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Post by JacobH » 22:27 Thu 17 Jul 2008

Does anyone know what this was made out of? I presume they aren’t growing Touriga Nacional out in the Crimea? What looks like a current website suggests they aren’t producing anything fortified to Port-levels but includes lots of grape varieties which I’ve never heard of like: Ekim-Kara, Kethessia, Capita-n-Kara, Lapa-Kara and Metin-Kara.

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Post by AHB » 18:40 Fri 18 Jul 2008

I have absolutely no idea from which grapes this was made - is Livadia a region or a grape? The little knowledge that I have of the Massandra collection of wines would imply that there was no consistent blend or type of grapes used for these fortified wines.

My notes on the night:
Livadia wine. Pale colour, a deep variation of honey. An odd, almost soapy, nose with some strange metallic and pine needle tints; not attractive. The odd taste comes through in the mouth but is quickly replaced with sweetness from layers of different kinds of honey. The alcohol shows an initial flash on swallowing but then leaves behind a surge of marmalade that fades rapidly before lingering almost unnoticed for a while. A wine which is perfectly respectable. 86/100. Decanted approximately 2 hours.
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Post by DRT » 22:56 Fri 18 Jul 2008

AHB wrote:is Livadia a region or a grape?
Livadia
"The first duty of Port is to be red"
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