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At the recommendation of a respected member here, I visited the Wine Tasting room in Lisbon a few days ago - I was doing my "tourist guide" thing for a visiting friend so it seemed appropriate. http://www.winesofportugal.com/en/travel-wine/wine-travel/wines-of-portugal-tasing-rooms/ (yes, ...

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I think that the Niepoort LBVs are probably better after some years in bottle. In their youth they may not be better than their filtered peers. You asked me if I'd tried it yet - so, guinea-pig style, I took that as an indication that it was ready to be drunk! :roll: Not to worry - the friends like...

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Bottled in 2013 Pull-style cork 17,45 euros http://i58.tinypic.com/155gh1t.jpg Decanted at 1pm: Rich, not as dark as some - fruity, but somewhat rough - hot in the stomach. D + 6: It’s opened up a bit more now - rich fruits - redcurrants perhaps, damselberries - still a little hot in the stomach. We...

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I was bored a few weeks ago, so I looked into BitCoin - I'd heard of it, but didn't really know what it was all about. I was shocked . I'm not talking about the underlying concept of BitCoin, but about the way new BitCoins are "mined". I downloaded a bit of software that mines coins - ther...

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http://i60.tinypic.com/2j3hbfo.jpg Decanted at 6pm: opaque purple. Not much in the nose. Rich - blackberries, a bit rough, some heat - long finish - will it ever end? If it can just loose that slight rough edge, this would be excellent, at the moment it’s just fairly nice. D + 3: Some heat, elderbe...

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RP's 20-yr old is a superb example of the genre. I was hoping it was something of a reference bottle - hence my experimenting with it. It's not that I didn't like it... Let's say I won (really, not a "Nigerian" win) tickets to either a Rugby International or a Football international - my ...

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Very nice indeed. Are they made from scratch or do you re-use pieces of furniture? I thought I detected an upside down table leg. From scratch - the first 2 are oak, beech and ash. The "industrial" ones are CCP (cheap crappy pine). The last is oak (fumed in ammonia to make it blacker) and...

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When I'm not drinking, I make things from wood. I started with this little guy... http://i62.tinypic.com/ycnz4.jpg This is now used for my "on deck" wines - the ones to drink shortly. ...and then this one... http://i61.tinypic.com/2lc1s2f.jpg ...bottles started exceeding storage, so I made...

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Bottled in 2007 Pull-style cork I acquired this during the "25% off all ports" campaign in the local supermarket about 6 months ago. http://i57.tinypic.com/n4tc88.jpg Decanted at 5pm: Thick, gooey, caramel - heat, but a bit sickly sweet. Now usually I make multiple notes - each time there'...

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Just a minute, this isn't you buying more white port is it? I thought you had been reasoned out of this madness. No, no, no, no no, no no. This is not me buying more white port. This is just me happening upon a bottle of white port and not buying it. I suspect it is because it has a stopper rather ...

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I happened to be surfing around, (easily) resisting the temptation to buy a bottle of Kopke White 10 years Port. But, in reading the "blurb", which seemed very much like it had come from an official source, here... http://www.portugalvineyards.com/wines/kopke-white-10-years-port I spied th...

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2 x 2009 Niepoort Porto Late Bottled Vintage
1 x 2003 Kopke Porto Late Bottled Vintage
1x 1988 Caves Messias Porto Late Bottled Vintage Quinta do Cachão
1 x 2001 Niepoort Porto Colheita Port

6 x 2010 Filipa Pato Fortificado Espirito de Baga

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Pull-style cork under a wax cap. 17% 500 ml bottle http://i58.tinypic.com/2nbvuol.jpg Região: Bairrada Castas: Baga Ano: 2010 Vol. Alcoolico: 17% The 2010 ESPIRITO DE BAGA is a fortified wine from Baga. The saga starts centuries ago. After years of quarrels between the French and the English, the la...

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If anyone gets the chance to try Filipa Pato EspÃrito de Baga Uma Saga (Beiras, Portugal) then please let me know what you think. I would anticipate a Maury-style wine. I was flipping, electronically, through Portugal Vineyards catalogue and ran across this - Baga wine fortified with Baga Brandy -...

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Unfiltered Pull-style cork Bottled 2006 18.99 Euros http://i57.tinypic.com/2rxd7iw.jpg Decanted at midday: Deep purple, red, with the merest hint of orange. Blackcurrants with a side serving of blackcurrants and a blackcurrant chaser in the nose. Oh very nice - smooth, some heat, blackberries, black...

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Bottled 2013 Stopper style cork http://i58.tinypic.com/6fqm1w.jpg Decanted at 3pm: Colour of Golden Syrup. Slightly woody. Smooth but with a touch of “whisky” in the mouth and (long) finish - possibly even a hint of Seville Orange there in the deep background. D + 6: A little darker, a little thicke...

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After carefully explaining my question, "The Don" at Sandeman replied with this explanation... "As you might know we can divide demarcated Douro region in three subregions: Baixo Corgo, Cima Corgo and Douro Superior – as you can see on the image below. They produced different types of...

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Bottled in 2002 Unfiltered Pull style cork (although with a small plastic packet with a stopper style cork in the box - how user-friendly is that!) 19.30 euros http://i60.tinypic.com/sb0qbk.jpg Decanted at 4pm: Significant sediment, some of which actually looks like almost complete grape skins! Almo...

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To really experience White Port you need to get one that is well-aged, ideally a 1952 Dalva Golden White. But since those are exceedingly rare, any of the Kopke 10-, 20-, 30-, or 40-year olds will suffice, as would the other Dalva Golden Whites (1963, 1971). Ah ah - thanks - they are now on my list.

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From notes that I copied down from somewhere or other on the web for a talk I gave: "The Tinta Roriz represents the largest proportion of new plantings after the Touriga Francesa. Its large berries and big bunches produce relatively high yields and the variety gives its best results in dry yea...

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I think it's all just in the balance of grapes used in the blend. Fiercely tannic varieties (maybe Touriga Nacional or Tinta Cão) that would give great longevity but which make the wine inaccessible in the short term are not required, whereas more floral varieties (perhaps including Tinta Barroca?)...

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Not quite answering the question, but nonetheless you might want to know that SV97 in half-bottle is way over the hill, but in double-magnum is still drinking nicely. So perhaps these wines spent a couple of years in itsy-bitsy-baby-sized bottles not unlike those one finds in hotel rooms before bei...

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Sometimes I see a flavour of this. Notably ... "Sandeman Porto Vau Vintage 2003 is a Vintage Porto of exceptional quality and modern style that may be enjoyed while still young or after ageing...". Ditto for the 1999. For some reason there's nothing on the 2011 Vau, but my understanding is...

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Well, I managed to get rid of the rest of it, which was most of it (I'd normally say "better part", but it didn't have a better part), at a small BBQ a couple of days ago - the hostess is a white wine drinker, and she really liked it, so it went to a good home. I have a Ramos Pinto Lágrima...

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djewesbury wrote:
AW77 wrote:6 bottles of 2011 Sandeman Vau
Very nice! From where?

AW77 recommended this one to me - one email and 5 days later I got my 12 from, it goes without saying, the lovely Cátia.

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Ah ha!
Thanks.

The link, for anyone else reading, is..

http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 94&p=52492

Next up seems to be "Warre's Warrior" which I'd never heard of, but about which I have now read.

The search begins to find a bottle of same.

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Are new questions being written in invisible pixels?

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...becomes.... ? I've deduced that one's "status" on the forum changes as one makes more posts. I used to be "Cruz Ruby", now I seem to be "Bin 27" (I've actually had one of them, it was OK). I'd guessed that, as one reaches each new milestone, the Port Gods would send ...

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Just in case anyone is wondering what's happened... My wife is ill at the moment and not drinking. It doesn't seem right to crack open the "special" port until she's able to fully partake, so this project is on hold right now. The bottle is in the cellar, rubbing somewhat low shoulders wit...

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Stopper style cork 5.99 euros (although I did get 10% off) http://i59.tinypic.com/bdf7s.jpg Double-decanted at 5pm: Straight from the fridge. The colour of weak acacia blossom honey. Smell that reminds me of super-duper-extraultra-cheapo sweet German white wine that I had once when I was 18 and put ...

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This is my (un-)patented method ... http://i61.tinypic.com/qp1oue.jpg One wine decanter, one port decanter in a cool box - a couple of frozen "ice blocks" over a couple of hours brings everything down to a nice temperature - 4 ice blocks if I'm looking to get it colder or it's particularly...

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Stopper style cork 15.99 euros http://i59.tinypic.com/or2cl2.jpg Decanted at 1pm: At the red end of purple. Thick, reasonably powerful blackcurrant, decent but not overpowering heat, not much finish. D + 6: Strange - I poured a small taster - hot hot hot with a side order of hot. 10 minutes later a ...

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I wonder if this is the same juice as the say Graham's LBV or if they use lesser wines for this one. Any guesses by the experts around here? I'm certainly no expert, but I've had the Graham's 2008 LBV and, from what I can remember, it was a thicker, richer, creamier drink than this - the notes (fro...

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Continuing my research into "Best Supermarket own brand LBV under 10 euros" (Soon to be seen in a bookstore near you - I'm negotiating the film rights even as we speak), I present... Pingo Doce. Stopper style cork. 8.49 euros Symington http://i59.tinypic.com/2nki4aw.jpg Decanted at 6pm: Pu...

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AHB wrote:I gather England is playing at the moment. Presumably Sri Lanka are the boys in blue. Score looks a bit odd but it's not the first time that England have lost two wickets for one run.

This really cracked me up!

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http://i59.tinypic.com/24xov1g.jpg I mostly drink fairly mediocre wine, but I felt this one was worth a mention. 89/100. 2 hours in the decanter. 13.90 euros. This 13 year old pure Baga still tastes like a youngster - long legs, purple with the meerest hint of brick and a huge, full-on flavour of g...

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Bottled in 2013. Stopper style cork. 8.49 euros http://i60.tinypic.com/mwr09g.jpg "Contemporal" is the "own-brand" mark of the Modelo Continente supermarket chain in Portugal. Decanted at 1pm: Fairly deep colour - more at the red end than purple. Clear. Thin legs. Redcurrant in t...

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I wonder if the author of this thread would put us out of our misery and tell us what they bought? Well. I picked one of these ... 1967 Croft Quinta da Roeda Vintage Porto 1985 Grahams Vintage Porto 1983 Grahams Vintage Porto I was going to post the tasting note here, and see, from that, it could b...

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I was with the lovely Cátia this morning, picking up treasures, and they had...
Barros Colheita 1981 - I don't recall the specific bottling date (doh!), but it was certainly within the last 5 years, for 60 euros.
Is that likely to be high quality?

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Gosh, those are rather high prices. However if GN is where you want to buy...! In fact, I rarely buy from GN, but I had to get a list from somewhere, and they are who I chose. I live in a small city (technically it's a city, more like a small town really) - population 25,000. We have a single wine ...

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Over in this thread... http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8650 Next step: stop drinking those terrible hybrids known as 10-yr old Tawnies (and similar-aged Colheitas). Those are tawnies for people who cannot let go. Fly. Be free. To date, the bottles in the tawny corner have not del...

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So how do you feel this compared to the Krohn colheita that you had recently? This could help to confirm that you prefer ruby style port to tawny style port. An interesting and fair question - and one I've spent the last hour or so thinking about. Whilst I still think I prefer, in general, ruby-sty...

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That might depend on which you chose. Which did you choose? Well. I picked one of these ... 1967 Croft Quinta da Roeda Vintage Porto 1985 Grahams Vintage Porto 1983 Grahams Vintage Porto I was going to post the tasting note here, and see, from that, it could be guessed which one it was. So optimal ...

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Stopper style cork Bottle number 4913 9.79 euros Ever the optimist, I thought perhaps this was might be a sub-10 euros undiscovered gem of the port world. And I had a" 25% off all port" coupon for the supermarket. And I quite liked the label... http://i58.tinypic.com/2yye3vn.jpg Decanted a...

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Thanks to everyone for the interesting discussion, and recommendations.

The decision is made.

One follow up question, if I may - if I am to serve this at, say 10pm - at what time should I decant it for an optimal quaffing experience at that time?

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Port goes through many phases in it's life, and my experience is that it does not just shut down .... and lots of other cool stuff . Thanks for that - I think that's what I needed to know - now I just (?simply?) have to develop the discernment in taste to detect those things - I think it's going to...

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I found myself in the supermarket today, looking at the "port" section. And it set me wondering what was on the shelves of supermarkets (not wine shops) in other countries. Perhaps people might like to post theirs. This is Continente (used to be Modelo) in Portalegre, Portugal - the popula...

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Bottled in 2003 - stopper style cork - 24.43 euros Decanted at 10am: Colour of very pale earl grey tea - very clear - not much in the nose - very light taste - hint of fruit, some heat, but not excessive D + 8: I’m not really getting the whole “Colheita” thing - this tastes more like a mix of madeir...

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You've clearly stated a preference for vintage ruby; If it were possible to persuade the purse-string holder to increase the budget to ~140 euros, I would point you unequivocally to F70. This isn't really playing by your rules, however, since I'm not staying within your "available" list.,...

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The trouble with drinking really good port is that you need to have something to compare it with. If this alien is given the finest on his one visit he will go home assuming it's all like that. My advice to wineloverpt would be to give the alien a Cruz ruby and drink the Graham 85 himself. The alie...

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