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Software that makes placemats
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Re: Software that makes placemats
Surely the best approach would be a CMYK to RGB colour-space conversion performed in post-script?
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Re: Software that makes placemats
Glenn: are you able to update your GhostScript to the latest? Please would you be willing to /InlineTitlesAttemptMinimiseNumContours true def, and test whether new GhostScript is still painfully slow? Thank you.GhostScript Bug 695906, on 16 Oct 2017 wrote:Works fine with the new scan converter.
This is not urgent.
Edit: also /InlineTitlesMaxNumberContours 20 def.
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I don't believe that I have GhostScript installed on my current computer. I have gone back to using ps2pdf.com because you fixed the issue that was causing that website to fail.jdaw1 wrote:Glenn: are you able to update your GhostScript to the latest? Please would you be willing to /InlineTitlesAttemptMinimiseNumContours true def, and test whether new GhostScript is still painfully slow? Thank you.GhostScript Bug 695906, on 16 Oct 2017 wrote:Works fine with the new scan converter.
This is not urgent.
Edit: also /InlineTitlesMaxNumberContours 20 def.
Glenn
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Re: Software that makes placemats
Bug report re Mac Preview’s setlinewidth and clip’ping
FYI.
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3. Please suggest improvements: whatever makes it more likely to be fixed.
Mac Preview mis-displays PDF files. Both setlinewidth and clip'ping regions are seriously mis-displayed, which is most inconvenient for those using macOS to produce beautiful files.
A PDF file has been made from the hand-written PostScript file at
www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... lip_bug.ps
Because this is handwritten, it can be read and understood by a human, who can then see what it is meant to do, and compare to what actually happens.
It was distilled with Distiller XI Pro 11.0.23 (01/11/2017) to make
www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... ip_bug.pdf
The PostScript was opened in Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
Observe error: red stroke of the (S) is much thinner than it should be.
The distilled PDF was opened in Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
Two errors: red stroke of the (S) is much thinner than it should be. Also the painting of the triangle clipped to the (S) is not correctly clipped: some green and black spills out of the S.
The same distilled was PDF opened in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC 2018.011.20038, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
This shows correctly.
The text of this report is also at www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... ip_bug.txt
Any or all files might be updated or improved to show the bug better. Check for latest.
Summary: Preview badly mis-displays the PDF, and also (though to a lesser extent) the PostScript.
Mac Bug 38317613 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38317613
Also at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... O_tFq3dyDM
FYI.
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3. Please suggest improvements: whatever makes it more likely to be fixed.
Mac Preview mis-displays PDF files. Both setlinewidth and clip'ping regions are seriously mis-displayed, which is most inconvenient for those using macOS to produce beautiful files.
A PDF file has been made from the hand-written PostScript file at
www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... lip_bug.ps
Because this is handwritten, it can be read and understood by a human, who can then see what it is meant to do, and compare to what actually happens.
It was distilled with Distiller XI Pro 11.0.23 (01/11/2017) to make
www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... ip_bug.pdf
The PostScript was opened in Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
Observe error: red stroke of the (S) is much thinner than it should be.
The distilled PDF was opened in Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
Two errors: red stroke of the (S) is much thinner than it should be. Also the painting of the triangle clipped to the (S) is not correctly clipped: some green and black spills out of the S.
The same distilled was PDF opened in Adobe Acrobat Reader DC 2018.011.20038, and at 1200* screenshotted to make
This shows correctly.
The text of this report is also at www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/201803_P ... ip_bug.txt
Any or all files might be updated or improved to show the bug better. Check for latest.
Summary: Preview badly mis-displays the PDF, and also (though to a lesser extent) the PostScript.
Mac Bug 38317613 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38317613
Also at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic ... O_tFq3dyDM
Re: Software that makes placemats
In 'Table of Contents', Preview’s navigation dysfunctional
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3.
Download and open
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2018/20180102_Ideally1878.pdf
View > Table of Contents (or, equivalently, command-option-3)
Click on the arrow next to “Vote recorders (pp35-39, A4)” to make visible its sub-items.
Click on “Wine of the Night? (p37, A4)”. The black focus jumps from there up a few lines. Click on “What is it? (p39, A4)”. Again focus jumps.
In a previous version of Preview (no, I don't know precisely, but about two OS's ago) one could navigate through the Table of Contents using up and down arrows. Attempt same. Observe jumping about. This user interface isn't working.
Please fix.
The text of this bug report, perhaps updated or improved, is also at
http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/2 ... ntents.txt
I have many PDFs giving Preview this problem, including:
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171219_1977s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171130 ... _1970s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171129_Calem.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171102_1970s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171019_mature.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171010 ... mpbell.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170928_Bring.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170907_SQVP_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170809_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170801_Emergency.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170713_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170621 ... yHouse.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170600_Portugal.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170608_1967s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170524 ... mebody.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170510 ... quired.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170426_DFW.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170419_emergency.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170406_1955s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170322_blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170309 ... tangle.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170301 ... uctory.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170204_CUTwC.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170204 ... rkusen.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170201 ... it_hen.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170104 ... Bottle.pdf
Mac Bug report 38358147 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38358147
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3.
Download and open
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2018/20180102_Ideally1878.pdf
View > Table of Contents (or, equivalently, command-option-3)
Click on the arrow next to “Vote recorders (pp35-39, A4)” to make visible its sub-items.
Click on “Wine of the Night? (p37, A4)”. The black focus jumps from there up a few lines. Click on “What is it? (p39, A4)”. Again focus jumps.
In a previous version of Preview (no, I don't know precisely, but about two OS's ago) one could navigate through the Table of Contents using up and down arrows. Attempt same. Observe jumping about. This user interface isn't working.
Please fix.
The text of this bug report, perhaps updated or improved, is also at
http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/2 ... ntents.txt
I have many PDFs giving Preview this problem, including:
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171219_1977s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171130 ... _1970s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171129_Calem.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171102_1970s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171019_mature.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20171010 ... mpbell.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170928_Bring.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170907_SQVP_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170809_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170801_Emergency.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170713_Blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170621 ... yHouse.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170600_Portugal.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170608_1967s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170524 ... mebody.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170510 ... quired.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170426_DFW.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170419_emergency.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170406_1955s.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170322_blind.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170309 ... tangle.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170301 ... uctory.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170204_CUTwC.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170204 ... rkusen.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170201 ... it_hen.pdf
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2017/20170104 ... Bottle.pdf
Mac Bug report 38358147 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38358147
Re: Software that makes placemats
Apple Preview ignores many pdfmark settings
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3.
mark {Catalog} << /PageLayout /TwoPageLeft >> /PUT pdfmark
This PostScript command, which is echoed in the PDF, causes a two page layout in which the first page is not shown by itself. Two pages, without title page. Heeded by Adobe reader; ignored by Preview.
mark /Action << >> /Color [0 0 0] /F 0 /Title () /OUT pdfmark
mark /Action << >> /Color [0 0 0] /F 2 /Title (\247 Re-ordered) /OUT pdfmark
The “/F 2” sets the Outline (= Table of Contents) entry to be bold. Heeded by Adobe reader; ignored by Preview.
Adds a non-printing polygon to show the boundary of something. Heeded by Adobe reader; ignored by Preview.
The first two of these bugs can be seen by opening
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2018/20180102_Ideally1878.pdf
and the third in
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2016/20161215_White_Horse.pdf
Please could these and other settings be heeded.
This text, perhaps updated, will appear at
http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/2 ... ttings.txt
Apple bug 38391355 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38391355
This is the text of a bug report re Mac Preview 10.0 (944.4) under macOS High Sierra 10.13.3.
mark {Catalog} << /PageLayout /TwoPageLeft >> /PUT pdfmark
This PostScript command, which is echoed in the PDF, causes a two page layout in which the first page is not shown by itself. Two pages, without title page. Heeded by Adobe reader; ignored by Preview.
mark /Action << >> /Color [0 0 0] /F 0 /Title () /OUT pdfmark
mark /Action << >> /Color [0 0 0] /F 2 /Title (\247 Re-ordered) /OUT pdfmark
The “/F 2” sets the Outline (= Table of Contents) entry to be bold. Heeded by Adobe reader; ignored by Preview.
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mark
/Rect [ ... ]
/Subtype /Polygon
/BS << /Type /Border /W 1 /S /S >>
/Subj (A string)
/ModDate ParametersVersionDateTimeAdobeFormat
/F 64 128 add % ReadOnly + Locked. PDFReference16.pdf page 574
/Vertices [ ... ]
/Color [ 0.6 0.6 1.0 ]
/ANN pdfmark
The first two of these bugs can be seen by opening
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2018/20180102_Ideally1878.pdf
and the third in
http://www.jdawiseman.com/2016/20161215_White_Horse.pdf
Please could these and other settings be heeded.
This text, perhaps updated, will appear at
http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/bugs/2 ... ttings.txt
Apple bug 38391355 https://bugreport.apple.com/web/?problemID=38391355
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Re: Software that makes placemats
In the latest placemats, why are the "1963" over the shipper different sizes?
In the above, the 1963 over Ck and Mz are clearly smaller than those over G and D; perhaps some form of proportion since the Mz and Ck are in a smaller font than G and D (being maximised to fit within circles), but it would look better if all the 1963s were the same size font. I don't know how the font size decision for the over-print of the year was determined (I haven't looked, to be fair); perhaps some additional form of control might already provide the capability to enforce a common font size for the 1963s since they are all the same and in the same size area, but if not then perhaps it might be a worthwhile addition.
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It was wrong. I will investigate whether it was a user error or a programmer failure (same person; different roles) and suggest a plan, or just effect it.PhilW wrote:In the above, the 1963 over Ck and Mz are clearly smaller than those over G and D; perhaps some form of proportion since the Mz and Ck are in a smaller font than G and D (being maximised to fit within circles), but it would look better if all the 1963s were the same size font. I don't know how the font size decision for the over-print of the year was determined (I haven't looked, to be fair); perhaps some additional form of control might already provide the capability to enforce a common font size for the 1963s since they are all the same and in the same size area, but if not then perhaps it might be a worthwhile addition.
Re: Software that makes placemats
Instead ofit would have been better to do So it could be a user error.
But I think a change of default for FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin would be advisable, fromtoSo it could be a programmer error.
A reminder: if font sizes are closer in ratio than FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin (or, mutatis mutandis, FontSizesRatioTitlesMin, then they are set to be the same. It is, in ratio terms, the minimum difference in font size. These two parameters prevent there being many font sizes that differ only slightly.
Objections?
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/OvertitleMaxFontSizeProportionTitles 0.125 def
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/OvertitleMaxFontSizeProportionTitles 0.166666666 def
/FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin 999 def
But I think a change of default for FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin would be advisable, from
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/FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin 2 sqrt sqrt def
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/FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin 999 def
A reminder: if font sizes are closer in ratio than FontSizesRatioAboveBelowOverMin (or, mutatis mutandis, FontSizesRatioTitlesMin, then they are set to be the same. It is, in ratio terms, the minimum difference in font size. These two parameters prevent there being many font sizes that differ only slightly.
Objections?
Re: Software that makes placemats
Advice wanted on a technical problem, relating to the seed for PostScript’s random numbers, the seed being set with srand.
To fix some bugs and refactor code, each circle’s painting is surrounded by a rrand … srand pair, to put in the stack the current seed, and then to reset the random-number seed to that.
Discussion is happening about a forthcoming Cockburn vertical. The current draft of the placemats has the 1947 and 1967 as:
Observe that the layout of the stars look very similar, with a slight offset. (The eye might start at the top-right of the ‘7’s.) Indeed, relative to the centre of the circle, the stars are identically positioned. Is this:
• Perfection?
• Tolerable?
• Erroneous?
(I admit to dislike—hence this question.)
(Typo fixed.)
To fix some bugs and refactor code, each circle’s painting is surrounded by a rrand … srand pair, to put in the stack the current seed, and then to reset the random-number seed to that.
Discussion is happening about a forthcoming Cockburn vertical. The current draft of the placemats has the 1947 and 1967 as:
Observe that the layout of the stars look very similar, with a slight offset. (The eye might start at the top-right of the ‘7’s.) Indeed, relative to the centre of the circle, the stars are identically positioned. Is this:
• Perfection?
• Tolerable?
• Erroneous?
(I admit to dislike—hence this question.)
(Typo fixed.)
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Re: Software that makes placemats
Tolerable, though less than ideal. Why do you keep get/setting the seed, rather than simply setting it at the start of the script (presumably to a fixed value for determinism) and then just using rand throughout thereafter?
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Because sometimes multiple passes of randomness need to be aligned. E.g., in Titles and Overtitles:
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Re: Software that makes placemats
"need"? no. "want"? perhaps - I would likely have compromised this one, and not chosen alignment for this, unless it turned out to look poor. With your chosen method you still should only need to cache and reseed while drawing the multiple aspects of a single circle, then continue (though this would place restrictions on the order in which you need to draw elements, or increase the seed cache-ing to one per circle, and then restore to subsequent afterwards, which might be the better route, depending on the currently implemented order of drawing of elements.
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Disagree: this is a need.
Yes. And my question was whether I should. And the answers seems to be ‘yes’.PhilW wrote: ↑14:34 Sat 21 Jul 2018With your chosen method you still should only need to cache and reseed while drawing the multiple aspects of a single circle, then continue (though this would place restrictions on the order in which you need to draw elements, or increase the seed cache-ing to one per circle, and then restore to subsequent afterwards, which might be the better route, depending on the currently implemented order of drawing of elements.
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I actually noticed the non-randomness of the 47 and 67 with merely a glance before reading the rest of the original post.
That said, I don't see it as a problem.
(The overtitles example looks bad to me, and not due to alignment. I would not put the pattern in the overtitle as it makes that word too difficult to read. Especially in the busy parts in 'pe' and 'ia'.)
That said, I don't see it as a problem.
(The overtitles example looks bad to me, and not due to alignment. I would not put the pattern in the overtitle as it makes that word too difficult to read. Especially in the busy parts in 'pe' and 'ia'.)
Glenn Elliott
Re: Software that makes placemats
Decision made: fixed.
That the fix has shortened the code by ten lines increases the likelihood that it was the right thing to do.
That the fix has shortened the code by ten lines increases the likelihood that it was the right thing to do.
Re: Software that makes placemats
Julian - Thomas V over on FTLOP has posted that the ps to pdf converter seems to no longer function with a placemat .ps file. Any ideas what's happened? I suspect the converter is doing something different and doesn't like something in the .ps file. The converter at www.ps2pdf.com also seems to have stopped giving a log which is a bit unhelpful for figuring out the issue.
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Link to Thomas V’s comment. I’ve asked the PS➝PDF folks for help.
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Posted with permission.Mike Hugo wrote:I've sold the ps2pdf.com domain and it is now being run by someone else.
I continue to keep the old service as ps2pdf.org.
I'm not even sure how your email made it to me as the new owner should be receiving email for the dot com domain but perhaps has not updated something.
When I take the document and convert it at ps2pdf.org it does produce a document.
This document also causes my security wrapper to generate a pile of output as this file includes a bunch of code in it that causes the converter to block certain transactions that the file is trying to do. It still creates a final pdf .
Feel free to link to the ps2pdf.org site.
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Many thanks Julian.
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I agree with this, the pattern in the over label is completely distracting when placed over the vintage stars.
The vintage stars themselves I find a little too cluttered for the overall appearance that I'm distracted with the fill and not the vintage date itself.
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