Warm-up for the BFT: Something nice from the 60s

[Axel P]

Capricas initials are VDSS.

@Julian: could you please split the two placemats into: one with the 7x 63s and one with the others. jdj?

Industry Guest is Elsa Couto (Init EC) who will bring Dalva Golden White Colheita.

Thanks and best

Axel

[jdaw1]

Capricas initials are VDSS.

Will fix this evening.

@Julian: could you please split the two placemats into: one with the 7x 63s and one with the others. jdj?

Six fits on A4, seven not really. I'll rearrange the A3 so that the 1963s are separated from the others.

Industry Guest is Elsa Couto (Init EC) who will bring Dalva Golden White Colheita.

Which year?

[PhilW]

Request to cluster the F/S/T around the Av if possible.

[Axel P]

Then we pleaese leave it as it is. Please take the wines from the summary in the beginning. Dalva 63, Ian is bringing T66. Can you please arrange the wines that the 63s are on the right side and the others left. Thank you

[Axel P]

Request to cluster the F/S/T around the Av if possible.

... and Phil's request

[jdaw1]

Can you please arrange the wines that the 63s are on the right side and the others left.

If you insist, but why not by age, older on left, younger on right, 63s together in the middle?

Request to cluster the F/S/T around the Av if possible.

Will do.

[JB vintage]

We will bring Feist and Sandeman 1963

I have but one bottle of S63 which I believe to be in good condition and so in the absence of anyone with a bigger population of S63 volunteering then I would be prepared to bring this.

Please confirm that we have 2×S63. (I’m not objecting, merely seeking confirmation.)

Sten (initials SAI) is planning to take Sandeman 63 as idj asked if anyone else had a S63 to offer so he could bring something else. However, in Axel P's summary idj is noted for F66, but this is also a duplicate to forest 26's F66.

Idj, do you have other alternatives or should I ask Sten to bring something else?

I, Jorgen (initials JB) will bring Feist 63.

[jdaw1]

Sten (initials SAI) is planning to take Sandeman 63 as idj asked if anyone else had a S63 to offer so he could bring something else.

Ian is bringing T66.

[JB vintage]

Sten (initials SAI) is planning to take Sandeman 63 as idj asked if anyone else had a S63 to offer so he could bring something else.

Ian is bringing T66.

Perfect

[PhilW]

Can you please arrange the wines that the 63s are on the right side and the others left.

If you insist, but why not by age, older on left, younger on right, 63s together in the middle?

I think Axel is intended to have two separate flights, with all the 63s within one of those (in order to avoid splitting them, especially given Avery+components). This is likely why he was asking for 7+7 on separate sheets as preference.

[jdaw1]

I think Axel is intended to have two separate flights, with all the 63s within one of those (in order to avoid splitting them, especially given Avery+components).

In which case, why not three flights: older than 1963; 1963; younger than 1963?

[jdaw1]

The placemats have been updated, mostly but not wholly in accordance with instructions.

Please verify the Dalva G. W. year.

[CPR 1]

The placemats have been updated, mostly but not wholly in accordance with instructions.

Please verify the Dalva G. W. year.

Dalva 63,

[jdaw1]

Thank you.

The placemats have been updated, mostly but not wholly in accordance with instructions — and now in four flights. Axel: please confirm satisfactory.

(Date wrong, which will be fixed.)

[JB vintage]

How many glasses do we need to bring?

[Axel P]

We are currently dealing with the glass issue. Otherwise 7. The Club also could provide some which are not perfect.

Thank you, Julian, for all your work up front.

[jdaw1]

May I leave by bottle in advance at The RAF Club. To whom should it be entrusted?

[JB vintage]

We are flying in from Sweden on the morning of the tasting. We think it might be better to decant in the morning before the flight rather than mixing the sediment during the flight. We will bring the original bottle in any case. Does any of you have experience on what would be the best option?

[WS1]

Gentlemen,

Axel asked me to look into the glass issue and despite short notice we can hire glasses for this event (Riedel port stems). The cost split per person for 7 glasses each is 13.2£. Please confirm urgently that you are happy us using the glass service as the glasses in the RAF club are not only not good for port (bad shape/design) they are usually not usable for port due to the very efficient dish washer arrangement they have reusing used water. Without extra cleaning the glasses the port is heavily handicapped. I need to get back to the glass service swiftly as otherwise it is too late.

regards

WS1

[WS1]

We are flying in from Sweden on the morning of the tasting. We think it might be better to decant in the morning before the flight rather than mixing the sediment during the flight. We will bring the original bottle in any case. Does any of you have experience on what would be the best option?

Please open the port before you go to bed the night before your flight, let it rest overnight opened and just double decant into the bt the next morning after cleaning.

Your call but would be my suggestion as I agree do not transport and then decant.

regards

WS1

[PhilW]

Gentlemen,

Axel asked me to look into the glass issue and despite short notice we can hire glasses for this event (Riedel port stems). The cost split per person for 7 glasses each is 13.2£. Please confirm urgently that you are happy us using the glass service as the glasses in the RAF club are not only not good for port (bad shape/design) they are usually not usable for port due to the very efficient dish washer arrangement they have reusing used water. Without extra cleaning the glasses the port is heavily handicapped. I need to get back to the glass service swiftly as otherwise it is too late.

regards

WS1

Hi Wolfgang; am happy with either Riedels or ISOs, and makes much more sense to pay for hire than to all be transporting glasses around everywhere. Yes from me.

[flash_uk]

Glass hire gets a yes from me. Transporting own glasses has a decent probability of breaking one or more, at much greater cost than 13.20!

[jdaw1]

With only seven glasses each, pre-pouring will be impossible.

Do we free pour (which never works with more than ten people)? Do we hire some and bring some? Or do we hire the correct number?

I prefer hiring none or enough, but not just some.

[idj123]

Personally I would prefer to bring my 7 IVDP glasses rather than go to further (and unnecessary for me) expense in hiring. However, those that want to can do so.

[WS1]

JDAW is right! Currently asking if we can have 196 glasses. Cost will be higher but I think prepouring is key as otherwise will go certainly wrong. Cost estimate I think for 14 glases is 20£ a head. Alternative if people bring their own glasses is we need measure glasses to go with the decanters as otherwise it ends in a mess assuming every body potentially brings different glasses.

regards

WS1

[Axel P]

Thank you for the help, Wolfgang and Julian, I have ordered the glasses, so no one has to bring glasses and I will collect 90 GBP for the evening.

Axel

[WS1]

Axel,

thanks for the decision that we have the glasses hired for the evening which will amount to 21£ per head. Am I reading your post right that you collect ~ 6.5£ per person for the evening or 90£ per person?

Please clarify and provide full break down of expected cost.

regards

WS1

[Axel P]

Dear all,

due to the Riedel glass hiring costs are now 90 GBP per head, including everything (also inviting our industry guest).

Please do bring the bottle decanted along or bring everything to decant this to the RAF Club.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Much looking forward to seeing you all there.

[jdaw1]

May I deposit my bottle at The RAF Club tomorrow? With whom? Please instruct.

[jdaw1]

Links:

• Review of the event as a whole;
• 1960 Croft;
• 1960 Fonseca;
• 1962 Harvey;
• 1963 Dalva Golden White;
• 1963 Fonseca;
• 1963 Taylor;
• 1963 Sandeman;
• 1963 Avery;
• 1963 Dow;
• 1963 Warre;
• 1963 Feist;
• 1966 Quinta do Noval;
• 1966 Fonseca;
• 1966 Taylor;
• The placemats (and parameters by which made);
• Planning and arrangements.

[JB vintage]

Great that we will not have to bring glasses.
We very much look forward to seeing you in a few days.

[PhilW]

@Julian - placemats checked and all look correct.
Could I request two swaps of position: S63 <-> Fs63 and T63<->F63 as this would make a better "Avery corner".

[jdaw1]

@Julian - placemats checked and all look correct.
Could I request two swaps of position: S63 <-> Fs63 and T63<->F63 as this would make a better "Avery corner".

They have already been delivered to The RAF Club, so no, too late.

[flash_uk]

Are jeans allowed with a jacket and tie? I’m fairly certain what the answer will be but thought I’d ask anyway!

[Axel P]

When I was at RAF Cottesmore for the first time with my wife in the early 90s, a Benny Hill-type guy went into the officer's mess just before my wife and me. Dress code was regular uniform or flight suit, women accordingly. The entry control guy let the gentlemen in front of us pass although I was about to give him a pound for some food as his jacket looked like pre WWII.

My wife who was wearing very stylish wild-leather trousers was refused due to the fact that they "appear to be jeans-alike", which made us smile a bit about the enforcement of the dress code.

Bottom line: since it is a private function, jeans, shirt and jacket are fine, no tie necessary. I will be wearing those without a tie, too. The bar is also open for this dress code.

Much looking forward to seeing you tomorrow.

Axel

[flash_uk]

Warre '63 decanted at 0700 this morning. Colour and nose both tip top.

[Christopher]

I am afraid due to work issues I may not be able to make tonight. With apologies.
I have my bottle decanted at office on london wall, is anyone in the area who could pick it up. Otherwise I will try and drop off later in the night but I am unlikely to be able to stay.
Axel I will pay the full amount to you
Sorry for the late notice

[Axel P]

that it is a pity, Chris.

For all we are tasting the Ports in tHe Hurricane room and have dinner in the Hodges room. Unfortunately there is still no Messerschmidt room.

See you all tonight

[flash_uk]

I am afraid due to work issues I may not be able to make tonight. With apologies.
I have my bottle decanted at office on london wall, is anyone in the area who could pick it up. Otherwise I will try and drop off later in the night but I am unlikely to be able to stay.
Axel I will pay the full amount to you
Sorry for the late notice

Christopher - I could pick the bottle up. can get to London Wall for about 5. Send me a PM with your mobile number and address.

[Christopher]

Thanks I certainly won’t be there early.
Could I please have a place and ports still layer out just in case, will advise later

[WS1]

I will not be early either; but hope to be there by 6:30PM. Work issues are also hampering me. Magnum bt of red wine for dinner, Averys 63 and F63 decanted are in my possesion and will arrive with me.

cu

Wolfgang

[jdaw1]

F60 decanted and en route. ETA 18:05.

[/2alph]

hafe fun!

[JB vintage]

Thank you for a very nice tasting. It was very nice meeting you all again.