Is there a difference? Is Poças merely a shortened name for Poças Junior, or are they different?
Emergency, Tue 26 April 2022
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
if not to late, please can i be added to the list?
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I agree with the facts, but am less certain of the inference.winesecretary wrote: ↑11:05 Fri 02 Apr 2021Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I will liaise with Joao and see if we can source some older VP bottles or fill the gap in the colhietas between 60's and 90's
I have
Colheita - 64, 67, 96, 97, 00, 01, 03...
VP 77, 78, 96, 03...
We do need to taste the Quinado
Also they have a 2006 colheita aged in barrel (small cask) and one aged in a “balseiro” (big cask).
I have
Colheita - 64, 67, 96, 97, 00, 01, 03...
VP 77, 78, 96, 03...
We do need to taste the Quinado
Also they have a 2006 colheita aged in barrel (small cask) and one aged in a “balseiro” (big cask).
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Thank you. Added to the second post. So far we have nine colheitas, ten VPs, zero LBVs, and might be able to obtain one Quinado.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
From the VPID images, I see all vintages branded as "Pocas Junior" up to 1978, and from 1982 the labels all show the brand as "Pocas" (still Pocas Junior as the producer in smaller script).jdaw1 wrote: ↑13:00 Fri 02 Apr 2021I agree with the facts, but am less certain of the inference.winesecretary wrote: ↑11:05 Fri 02 Apr 2021Idle perusal of vintageport.se tells me this was a business founded by Manoel D. Poças Junior in 1918 (that explains the '100 years' cork on the 2000 colheita botled in 2018, I was wondering) and now called Manoel D. Poças Junior Vinhos SA. I infer that Poças Junior and Poças are the same wine, the Junior possibly having been dropped as unhelpful in English-speaking markets as suggesting second-tier status.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
George, Phil: I think that answers the question. ‘Junior’ seemed, well, junior, so was de-emphasised circa 1980.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Let’s guess that we will have access to the Ports we have, plus those for which the website has data sheets. That would be 10 × colheita + 4 × tawny with indication of age + 12 × VP + 4 × LBV.
Perhaps I’m older than formerly, but thirty in one session starts to be non-trivial consumption.
Tawnies and colheitas remain good in bottle for a while. So what about a 16:30 start, with small pours of the wood-aged, not necessarily finishing them. Then the evening session can be the 16 bottled-aged, VPs + LBVs.
Might this be a good plan?
Perhaps I’m older than formerly, but thirty in one session starts to be non-trivial consumption.
Tawnies and colheitas remain good in bottle for a while. So what about a 16:30 start, with small pours of the wood-aged, not necessarily finishing them. Then the evening session can be the 16 bottled-aged, VPs + LBVs.
Might this be a good plan?
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
This is starting to look like two tastings, perhaps one of tawny and VP, perhaps the other of LBV and colheita?
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I can confirm that Poças Junior and Poças wines come from the same producer. Poças is simply the modern choice of brand; Poças Junior having been retired a few years ago.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Waiting list please.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Three months until the scheduled tasting date. And 298 days, almost 10 months, since the most recent post.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I would still like to attend. I still have the 1964 Colheita and the 2011 vintage.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I have the 2011 only.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I would like to reconfirm, still with the same bottles available.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Still available should I make it off the bench.
Still have no appropriate bottles.
Still have no appropriate bottles.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Reconfirming please
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Reconfirming please
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Reconfirming. No bottles I'm afraid.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
I confirm my interest.
Top Ports in 2023: Taylor 1896 Colheita, b. 2021. A perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
2024: Niepoort 1900 Colheita, b.1971. A near perfect Port.
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Reconfirming - have some wines, but not many
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Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
Reconfirming.
Re: Poças, Tue 26 April 2022
re confirming