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[mosesbotbol]

I thought the producers had to declare a vintage within a certain period of time? I take it that doesn't mean said vintage needs to come to market though.

Yes, definitely. Cockburn 1977 became an official declaration in, ooh, about 2017.

That's the only one I can think of off hand. I am yet to try one though. There was a marketing campaign for them when released and haven't heard a word or seen them on a retailer shelf since.

[Glenn E.]

I thought the producers had to declare a vintage within a certain period of time? I take it that doesn't mean said vintage needs to come to market though.

Yes, definitely. Cockburn 1977 became an official declaration in, ooh, about 2017.

That's the only one I can think of off hand. I am yet to try one though. There was a marketing campaign for them when released and haven't heard a word or seen them on a retailer shelf since.

I managed to pick up 2 of them when they were (re-)released, and as I recall it was a pretty limited release. 1 of the 2 has since been consumed. Brand new, spiffy modern labels, so unless you know what you're looking at when you see one, it is entirely possible that you might move right past it without realizing it's 40+ years old. I think I know where they are in one of my wine fridges, so if I get a chance I'll dig one out to photograph and post in this thread.

[Doggett]

Here is a pic of the Old and ‘New’ Ck77.
Interestingly there is no ‘not for commercial use’ on the Ck74 label earlier in the thread, but there is on the bottom of the older bottle shown here. Also, I seem to remember that Tom brought an undeclared Ck66 to the ‘66 Horizontal 6 years ago or so. A bottle with very good providence from memory.



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[Glenn E.]

Cool, yes that's why my 2 bottles of the "new" Cockburn looked like.

[flash_uk]

The ‘74 looks like it may have been only recently recorked, capsuled snd selo’d?

[mosesbotbol]

No wax on the reissued '77? Makes sense there was no selo on the original since they weren't for sale.

[JacobH]

I am quite amused that the old lables say “not for commercial use” rather than “not for sale or resale”: I like the idea that one might not merely drink a bottle of Port but, instead, “use” it.

[Alex M]

12 x GC 1997.

[Jamiesan12o]

Harvey Nichols’s sale is a wonder…

3x Niepoort 20yr old tawny; £37.50ea delivered
1x Croft 1994 VP; £37.50 delivered
1x Fonseca 1985 VP; £52.50 delivered
1x Vesuvio 2018 VP; £36 delivered

Lots of (in particular) 1994 and 2017 bargains left when I last checked…

[winesecretary]

Splendid. I have acquired 3 x 1985 Fonseca @ £52.50 (not quite daily drinker money but certainly cheaper than I have seen it in the last 6-7 years), 4 x Gosset Rose Halves @ £20.50, and a bottle of 2018 Gravelly Meadow (which is a plausible candidate for best US cab of that year) for a global low price of £147.50.

[Glenn E.]

I have acquired 3 x 1985 Fonseca @ £52.50

That is a most excellent price. Over here they're now usually comfortably over $100/bottle, even at auction.

[JacobH]

Despite limiting purchases to 4 per customer, Harvey Nick’s have emailed me to apologise that they can only send me 3 bottles of the Croft 1994 with my order and looking at the limited selection left, it appears that has done a fairly effective clear-out in the last 48 hours...

[Jamiesan12o]

12x Dow ‘94, at what I thought was a very good price of £40 per bottle IB. From the Nickolls and Perks sale.

[nac]

1 x Sandeman 1958 - Oporto bottled
1 x Warre 1966 - Oporto bottled
3 x Warre 1970 - UK bottled, Charles Kinloch, London NW10
3 x Fonseca Guimaraens 1976

[Doggett]

1 x Sandeman 1958 - Oporto bottled
1 x Warre 1966 - Oporto bottled
3 x Warre 1970 - UK bottled, Charles Kinloch, London NW10
3 x Fonseca Guimaraens 1976

Eight absolutely top draw Ports… good work!

[Justin K]

4 x Taylor’s 1983

[nac]

1 x Sandeman 1958 - Oporto bottled
1 x Warre 1966 - Oporto bottled
3 x Warre 1970 - UK bottled, Charles Kinloch, London NW10
3 x Fonseca Guimaraens 1976

Eight absolutely top draw Ports… good work!

Also:
3 x Graham Malvedos 1979
1 x Mackenzie 1955

[Doggett]

Not had a stella GM79 yet but hopefully they will be good.

However, the Mackenzie 55 is normally another very yummy Port! It would make for a good tasting alongside the FG76… possibly with a Dow 80 added to provide the Baga team, to go against another 55/76/80 trio.

[hadge]

1x Graham 1985 Mag
2x Dow 1985 Mag

[Alex Bridgeman]

1x Graham 1985 Mag
2x Dow 1985 Mag

You are the mag man. Nice finds.

[MigSU]

Nice finds indeed.

[gerwin.degraaf]

1x 1927 Dow's

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[Alex Bridgeman]

No-where close to Gerwin’s wonderful birthday present to himself, I bought (and consumed) a bottle of the wonderful Kopke 2003 Colheita last week.

My better half also bought me a bottle of Warre 1985 to give to me on my birthday later in the year.

Plus I stumbled on bottles of Quinta da Pedra Alta 10YO Tawny and 2018 Vintage and just had to buy them.

[hadge]

3x Dow 1977 Tappit Hen's

[Mike J. W.]

1 x Quinta da Romaneira 40 year-old Tawny
1 x 1996 Smith Woodhouse Madalena
1 x 2007 Kopke White Colheita
1 x 2017 Churchill LBV

[nac]

4 x Royal Oporto 1970
2 x Offley Boa Vista 1972
1 x Offley Vintage Port 1987 (bottled 1990)

[winesecretary]

12 x Dow 2017 (halves)

[Alex Bridgeman]

12 x Dow 2017 (halves)

I’ve not tasted Dow 2007 recently, but a couple of weeks ago I tasted Noval 2007 for the first time in a decade and was amazed at how delicious it was.

[MigSU]

12 x Dow 2017 (halves)

I’ve not tasted Dow 2007 recently, but a couple of weeks ago I tasted Noval 2007 for the first time in a decade and was amazed at how delicious it was.

Dow's 2017, not 2007.

[Alex Bridgeman]

12 x Dow 2017 (halves)

I’ve not tasted Dow 2007 recently, but a couple of weeks ago I tasted Noval 2007 for the first time in a decade and was amazed at how delicious it was.

Dow's 2017, not 2007.

Oops! Perhaps they’ll be drinking surprisingly nicely in 2033.

[Mike J. W.]

1 x 1980 Warre's VP
1 x 2000 Sao Pedro Das Aguias VP

[Andy Milner]

I have just purchased the following bottle at auction ( online but not collected yet). I know little about old tawny port, it was listed as a Gilbey 1900 and cost the princely sum of ten pounds plus fees. Can anyone enlighten me as to this port. Thanks

[Andy Velebil]

I have just purchased the following bottle at auction ( online but not collected yet). I know little about old tawny port, it was listed as a Gilbey 1900 and cost the princely sum of ten pounds plus fees. Can anyone enlighten me as to this port. Thanks

They used a t-cork to seal it.

Can you post better pics of the whole bottle?

[Andy Milner]

I have just purchased the following bottle at auction ( online but not collected yet). I know little about old tawny port, it was listed as a Gilbey 1900 and cost the princely sum of ten pounds plus fees. Can anyone enlighten me as to this port. Thanks

They used a t-cork to seal it.

Can you post better pics of the whole bottle?

Andy, is this any better, had to resize.

[Andy Velebil]

Bottle looks like mid to late 1950’s to early 60’s, perhaps.

Label appears to say …many years in cask. But no reference to actual age or year. However a good chunk of label is missing.

Without actual documentation, would be hard to verify it was actually 1900 Colheita. Labeling wasn’t always very clear as to contents back then (or sometimes now either).

Older tawnys tend to hold up better with long term bottle aging. But if indeed in bottle ~60-70 yrs it’s going to be a toss-up if it’s great, good or not so good. Regardless, the price you paid made it worth getting to at least try.

Please do let us know how it is when you open it.

[Andy Milner]

Bottle looks like mid to late 1950’s to early 60’s, perhaps.

Label appears to say …many years in cask. But no reference to actual age or year. However a good chunk of label is missing.

Without actual documentation, would be hard to verify it was actually 1900 Colheita. Labeling wasn’t always very clear as to contents back then (or sometimes now either).

Older tawnys tend to hold up better with long term bottle aging. But if indeed in bottle ~60-70 yrs it’s going to be a toss-up if it’s great, good or not so good. Regardless, the price you paid made it worth getting to at least try.

Please do let us know how it is when you open it.

Will be happy to, although it may be a while before I open it

[Glenn E.]

I don't see anything on that label to indicate that it might be a 1900 Colheita. What I do see is "Finest Old Tawny Port" which sounds to me very much like a Tawny Reserve. Though as Andy said, labeling wasn't always clear (or consistent) back in those days.

Even if a 1900 Colheita, the likelihood that it was bottled in the 50s or 60s with a t-stopper means it isn't likely to be great. Fine, no doubt, but I wouldn't expect much. 10 pounds seems reasonable.

[Alex Bridgeman]

While I agree with everything Andy and Glenn have said, don’t let them put you off.

I have some Tawny Port which was bottled in the 1950s and 1960s (although a short driven cork was used). It is still a phenomenal glass of wine. I reckon you have something which could be absolutely stunning.

(Glenn - I draw a parallel with the Mourão 40YO bottled in the early 2000s. These had a t-stopper but are still fabulous and probably will continue to be fabulous for another 50 years.)

[winesecretary]

5 x Niepoort 2015 LBV

[Andy Milner]

Many thanks for the varying comments, will post a better picture when I get over to Liverpool to collect it and will follow up on consumption..

[Justin K]

3 x Taylor’s 1977
1 x Vargellas 1982
1 x Fonseca 1983
1 x Dow’s 1963
1 x Q de Santa Barbara 1970 Colheita
1 x Kopke 1979 Colheita
2 x Unknown which turned to be Cockburn’s 1967
All bought at auction for easy money.

[Andy Velebil]

3 x Taylor’s 1977
1 x Vargellas 1982
1 x Fonseca 1983
1 x Dow’s 1963
1 x Q de Santa Barbara 1970 Colheita
1 x Kopke 1979 Colheita
2 x Unknown which turned to be Cockburn’s 1967
All bought at auction for easy money.

Drink F83 soon. Very soon. Ck67 is normally quite nice. As are some others. Not familiar with QSBc70, so curious what you think when you open it. Overall, a nice haul!

[winesecretary]

A bargain case of Churchill 1982. Will be about forty quid a bottle all in. Hurrah!

[Jamiesan12o]

2x double mags of Fonseca '09 - £150ea from Seckford. One for a friend, one for me. Not sure when on earth it'll be drunk, but without tempting fate there's plenty of time for the right occasion to arise!

[Alex Bridgeman]

2x double mags of Fonseca '09 - £150ea from Seckford. One for a friend, one for me. Not sure when on earth it'll be drunk, but without tempting fate there's plenty of time for the right occasion to arise!

That is remarkably good value. Well spotted.

[Justin K]

12 x Bomfim 2010
1 x Churchill Crushed 1985

[flash_uk]

12 x Bomfim 2010
1 x Churchill Crushed 1985

You’ll need to decant the crushed Churchill

[MigSU]

There's probably too much glass in it anyway, it's probably a total loss.

[Glenn E.]

6 more 2021 Graham's The Stone Terraces in 750ml, plus a tregnum, bringing my total to 12 and 1.

These are, of course, all in London, so I still need to acquire a couple here in the US (at an exorbitant price) so that I have them available to do my little verticals every time they release a new vintage.

[nac]

2 x 1984 Smith Woodhouse LBV