Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W

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g-man wrote:
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g-man wrote:Found, the link,

I'll pick up a 36 pack this week.
If you don't want all of those, I'll happily buy a dozen from you.
up to you, you want a whole box since shipping is shipping?
Heh, like you I'm trying to avoid acquiring that much glassware; but I'd had my eye on some of those glasses for a while.
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recap for new page

Location: g-man's apartment.

Food: We'll sort something out.

Starting with Julian's Forced Buyer #s (assuming his higher price for the Taylor48) and adding in $80 for Taylor85 I come out with a total of $1801. (Julian FYI: WS total would have been $2360).

$1801, divided up amongst people:
7: $257
8: $225
9: $200
10: $180 (Venue max capacity)

Current attendees

Please confirm people:

1. JDAW;
2. RMW = RonnieRoots;
3. MDK = Lady Roots;
4. CE = Carl;
5. ED = Eric;
6. JHG = Jeff;
7. JES = Josh;
8. JB = John;
9. ODM = JDAW's friend;
10. DD = differentDave

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# Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
  • Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
    • 1948:
      • Taylor;
    • 1963:
      • Taylor;
    • 1966:
      • Warre;
      • Taylor;
      • Fonseca;
    • 1977:
      • Warre;
      • Taylor;
      • Fonseca;
    • 1985:
      • Warre;
      • Fonseca.
      • Taylor.
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Take a box each. It simplifies arrangements when Jay isn’t in attendance and especially after I leave.
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Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.
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RonnieRoots wrote:
Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.
yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).
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g-man wrote:
RonnieRoots wrote:
Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.
yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).
It was included in the original $$ numbers as $80, so just a slight modification would be needed. I think if our goal is to be "complete" it should be included.
I saw it yesterday for $115 in a retail store, standing upright on a shelf!
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36 glasses have been ordered and are on shipment.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W

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Are we full? Is there room for one more?
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g-man wrote:yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).
Good price. 88)
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alright taylor 85 picked up

Julian, Tbird dropped out of the tasting.
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ODM is in.
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There was a request elsewhere to add Fonseca and Warre 1963 to this tasting. It sounds like that will add, at a bare minimum, $300 to the total wine costs (an extra $30 per person -- probably putting us at about $213 each). Thoughts?
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No objection from me.
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A modest sum for a perfect completion of the line-up. 88)
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Location? Today the Wisemans lunched at Petite Abeille, 401 East 20th Street at First Avenue NY 10010-7501, ☏ 212 727 1505, and I discussed with helpful manager Alex the possibility of our being hosted there. Apparently Friday nights are very busy, but Saturday less so. Objections to an informal Belgian diner objections of course being accompanied by a better plan.
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absolutely no complaints from me.
umm would they be open to us bringing 110 glasses tho? =P
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If there’s a consensus in favour I’ll call to make a reservation (6pm?) and ensure that matters are satisfactory.
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Fine with me, although g-man's apartment sounds perfect as well.
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RonnieRoots wrote:although g-man's apartment sounds perfect as well.
My error: I had forgotten about that plan. G-man: your call.
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I am fine with whatever,

having at the restaurant does save me from cleaning and sourcing anything.

and the food there is pretty good.
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g-man wrote:I am fine with whatever,
having at the restaurant does save me from cleaning and sourcing anything.
and the food there is pretty good.
Aww, I was looking forward to not having the pushiness of waiters eager to reclaim their table ... and not having huge corkage fees! However, if they were willing to cooperate with us having an "event" there on a saturday night, it might mean we could stretch the numbers a little. But g-man, if you need help with cleanup I can certainly assist.

On a different note, I've been approached by at least one person, and I kinda agree, that adding two 63's to the tasting might not be a worthwhile expense (13 stellar bottles for 10 people).
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Jdaw1, do you have any idea on the terms you could get from the restaurant?
Corkage, time space what not.

I'm happy to host regardless.

Food prices would be cheaper too.
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g-man wrote:Jdaw1, do you have any idea on the terms you could get from the restaurant?
Corkage, time space what not.
jdaw1 wrote:Today the Wisemans lunched at Petite Abeille, 401 East 20th Street at First Avenue NY 10010-7501, ☏ 212 727 1505, and I discussed with helpful manager Alex
Ii might be unhelpful of me to say in public more than ‟helpful”.

Here’s what. I hereby declare there to be interest in this location. I will call, and if things are satisfactory, book, and PM or post arrangements as appropriate.
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Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
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jdaw1 wrote:Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
Great!
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Great. Thanks for finding this site for us. That place has good Moule Frites. I hope g-man will be able to handle it for the whole day to not bake any cakes for the birthdays. :lol:
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SushiNorth wrote:On a different note, I've been approached by at least one person, and I kinda agree, that adding two 63's to the tasting might not be a worthwhile expense (13 stellar bottles for 10 people).
This problem obviously solved itself. :wink:
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jdaw1 wrote:Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
Great. Thanks for arranging jdaw. How will we do this. Taste first, eat afterwards? Or eat first and taste after dinner?
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RonnieRoots wrote:This problem obviously solved itself. :wink:
Yeah, the short story is that g-man and I became suspicious of the closures and labels on the Warre 63's being offered. I capped my bidding at 100 on the suspicious ones and 120 on the decent one, they all went above that.

Meanwhile, the Fonseca 63 went above our 150 target and was in dubious condition.
Sandemans 63, btw, was ignored. If there's any question why, see our tasting notes!! :)
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As we are approaching the date, can someone who previously did the math come up with final costs to be split?
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Wait until I have all the bottles with me in case of accident or cellar inventory error.
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the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.

so we may be short glasses
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g-man wrote:the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.
so we may be short glasses
Any word on what's going on??
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On Saturday 18th April 2009, starting about 6pm, ten of us are drinking much splendid port. A precise menu, and cost, and such other details as people request, will be available no later than five days before the event.

Glasses: if Jeff’s arrive, great. If they don’t, Jay has agreed to be helpful.
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SushiNorth wrote:
g-man wrote:the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.
so we may be short glasses
Any word on what's going on??
They're trying to source them

i'll call again on monday to get status.
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I’ll need four boxes for the old world. Do tell them and if it helps I can order them this week.
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jdaw1 wrote:On Saturday 18th April 2009, starting about 6pm, ten of us are drinking much splendid port. A precise menu, and cost, and such other details as people request, will be available no later than five days before the event.
Actually, I meant with the glasses :)

But to the original topic, it's time!

Ports:

Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
  • 1948:
    • Taylor;
  • 1963:
    • Taylor;
  • 1966:
    • Warre;
    • Taylor;
    • Fonseca;
  • 1977:
    • Warre;
    • Taylor;
    • Fonseca;
  • 1985:
    • Warre;
    • Fonseca.
    • Taylor.
Time:
Saturday, April 18th 2009 from 6pm-11pm

Venue:
Petite Abeille
401 East 20th Street at First Avenue
NY 10010-7501
212 727 1505

Current attendees
1. JDAW;
2. RMW = RonnieRoots;
3. MDK = Lady Roots;
4. CE = Carl;
5. ED = Eric;
6. JHG = Jeff;
7. JES = Josh;
8. JB = John;
9. ODM = JDAW's friend;
10. DD = differentDave

$1801, divided up amongst people:
10: $180

If anything is otherwise, please let us all know promptly.
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stupid glasses still have not come... but then again they didn't charge my card yet.
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g-man wrote:stupid glasses still have not come... but then again they didn't charge my card yet.
How many glasses do we have? Technically, we need 110.
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mm the glasses shipped, but I got hit with 35$ worth of shipment fees .... Is that right Julian?
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Question -- Are all wines sourced? I believe the majority were provided by Julian, just want to confirm that the T85 was acquired and that we are good to go. If there is an issue, I have a T85 about.
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SushiNorth wrote:Question -- Are all wines sourced? I believe the majority were provided by Julian, just want to confirm that the T85 was acquired and that we are good to go. If there is an issue, I have a T85 about.
I have a T85 in perfect condition,
and a possible F77 that Julian mentioned may not have been sourced.
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Julian has 32? glasses,
Looks like I should be getting my 36 later tomorrow which would put us at 68 glasses immediately available.
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g-man wrote:mm the glasses shipped, but I got hit with 35$ worth of shipment fees .... Is that right Julian?
I don’t recall that, but I can’t promise that I recall it at all.
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SushiNorth wrote:Question -- Are all wines sourced?
Fret not my friends. Matters are in hand. And with the two backup bottles mentioned, we’re safe.
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shall we open discussions for decant times?

I was going to decant the taylor 85 a good 24 hours before our tasting.
The F77 would be opened the morning of the tasting.
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OK, we're off to NYC. And whether there are 110 glasses or not, we'll be there the 18th. 88)
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I should have all the ports with me by the end of today. A list, hopefully concurring with previous list, will be posted.
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I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; W85. Me thirsty!
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jdaw1 wrote:I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; W85. Me thirsty!
ah yer missing the F85 and the T85?

I have teh T85 on hand, I have to check to see if I have the F85 on hand as well. (the F85 might be in offiste)
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