Heh, like you I'm trying to avoid acquiring that much glassware; but I'd had my eye on some of those glasses for a while.g-man wrote:up to you, you want a whole box since shipping is shipping?SushiNorth wrote:If you don't want all of those, I'll happily buy a dozen from you.g-man wrote:Found, the link,
I'll pick up a 36 pack this week.
Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
recap for new page
Location: g-man's apartment.
Food: We'll sort something out.
Starting with Julian's Forced Buyer #s (assuming his higher price for the Taylor48) and adding in $80 for Taylor85 I come out with a total of $1801. (Julian FYI: WS total would have been $2360).
$1801, divided up amongst people:
7: $257
8: $225
9: $200
10: $180 (Venue max capacity)
Current attendees
Please confirm people:
1. JDAW;
2. RMW = RonnieRoots;
3. MDK = Lady Roots;
4. CE = Carl;
5. ED = Eric;
6. JHG = Jeff;
7. JES = Josh;
8. JB = John;
9. ODM = JDAW's friend;
10. DD = differentDave
ports confirmed
# Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
Location: g-man's apartment.
Food: We'll sort something out.
Starting with Julian's Forced Buyer #s (assuming his higher price for the Taylor48) and adding in $80 for Taylor85 I come out with a total of $1801. (Julian FYI: WS total would have been $2360).
$1801, divided up amongst people:
7: $257
8: $225
9: $200
10: $180 (Venue max capacity)
Current attendees
Please confirm people:
1. JDAW;
2. RMW = RonnieRoots;
3. MDK = Lady Roots;
4. CE = Carl;
5. ED = Eric;
6. JHG = Jeff;
7. JES = Josh;
8. JB = John;
9. ODM = JDAW's friend;
10. DD = differentDave
ports confirmed
# Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
- Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
- 1948:
- Taylor;
- 1963:
- Taylor;
- 1966:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1977:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1985:
- Warre;
- Fonseca.
- Taylor.
- 1948:
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Take a box each. It simplifies arrangements when Jay isn’t in attendance and especially after I leave.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).RonnieRoots wrote:I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
It was included in the original $$ numbers as $80, so just a slight modification would be needed. I think if our goal is to be "complete" it should be included.g-man wrote:yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).RonnieRoots wrote:I would say: If you know a place that offers it, please do. It would definitely be a fitting addition to the line-up.Note: did anyone acutally pick up the Taylor 85? I can pick it up if no and we want it in the line up
I saw it yesterday for $115 in a retail store, standing upright on a shelf!
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
36 glasses have been ordered and are on shipment.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Are we full? Is there room for one more?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Good price.g-man wrote:yea it's 85$ including tax and shipping. Don't know if people wanted it =).

Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
alright taylor 85 picked up
Julian, Tbird dropped out of the tasting.
Julian, Tbird dropped out of the tasting.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
There was a request elsewhere to add Fonseca and Warre 1963 to this tasting. It sounds like that will add, at a bare minimum, $300 to the total wine costs (an extra $30 per person -- probably putting us at about $213 each). Thoughts?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
No objection from me.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
A modest sum for a perfect completion of the line-up. 

Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Location? Today the Wisemans lunched at Petite Abeille, 401 East 20th Street at First Avenue NY 10010-7501, ☠212 727 1505, and I discussed with helpful manager Alex the possibility of our being hosted there. Apparently Friday nights are very busy, but Saturday less so. Objections to an informal Belgian diner objections of course being accompanied by a better plan.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
absolutely no complaints from me.
umm would they be open to us bringing 110 glasses tho? =P
umm would they be open to us bringing 110 glasses tho? =P
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
If there’s a consensus in favour I’ll call to make a reservation (6pm?) and ensure that matters are satisfactory.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Fine with me, although g-man's apartment sounds perfect as well.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
My error: I had forgotten about that plan. G-man: your call.RonnieRoots wrote:although g-man's apartment sounds perfect as well.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I am fine with whatever,
having at the restaurant does save me from cleaning and sourcing anything.
and the food there is pretty good.
having at the restaurant does save me from cleaning and sourcing anything.
and the food there is pretty good.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Aww, I was looking forward to not having the pushiness of waiters eager to reclaim their table ... and not having huge corkage fees! However, if they were willing to cooperate with us having an "event" there on a saturday night, it might mean we could stretch the numbers a little. But g-man, if you need help with cleanup I can certainly assist.g-man wrote:I am fine with whatever,
having at the restaurant does save me from cleaning and sourcing anything.
and the food there is pretty good.
On a different note, I've been approached by at least one person, and I kinda agree, that adding two 63's to the tasting might not be a worthwhile expense (13 stellar bottles for 10 people).
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Jdaw1, do you have any idea on the terms you could get from the restaurant?
Corkage, time space what not.
I'm happy to host regardless.
Food prices would be cheaper too.
Corkage, time space what not.
I'm happy to host regardless.
Food prices would be cheaper too.
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g-man wrote:Jdaw1, do you have any idea on the terms you could get from the restaurant?
Corkage, time space what not.
Ii might be unhelpful of me to say in public more than ‟helpful”.jdaw1 wrote:Today the Wisemans lunched at Petite Abeille, 401 East 20th Street at First Avenue NY 10010-7501, ☠212 727 1505, and I discussed with helpful manager Alex
Here’s what. I hereby declare there to be interest in this location. I will call, and if things are satisfactory, book, and PM or post arrangements as appropriate.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Great!jdaw1 wrote:Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Great. Thanks for finding this site for us. That place has good Moule Frites. I hope g-man will be able to handle it for the whole day to not bake any cakes for the birthdays. 

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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
This problem obviously solved itself.SushiNorth wrote:On a different note, I've been approached by at least one person, and I kinda agree, that adding two 63's to the tasting might not be a worthwhile expense (13 stellar bottles for 10 people).

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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Great. Thanks for arranging jdaw. How will we do this. Taste first, eat afterwards? Or eat first and taste after dinner?jdaw1 wrote:Table for ten people booked for the whole evening, defined as 6pm to 11pm, on Saturday 18th April 2009. Manager Alex will be on duty.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Yeah, the short story is that g-man and I became suspicious of the closures and labels on the Warre 63's being offered. I capped my bidding at 100 on the suspicious ones and 120 on the decent one, they all went above that.RonnieRoots wrote:This problem obviously solved itself.
Meanwhile, the Fonseca 63 went above our 150 target and was in dubious condition.
Sandemans 63, btw, was ignored. If there's any question why, see our tasting notes!!

Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
As we are approaching the date, can someone who previously did the math come up with final costs to be split?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Wait until I have all the bottles with me in case of accident or cellar inventory error.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.
so we may be short glasses
so we may be short glasses
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Any word on what's going on??g-man wrote:the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.
so we may be short glasses
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
On Saturday 18th April 2009, starting about 6pm, ten of us are drinking much splendid port. A precise menu, and cost, and such other details as people request, will be available no later than five days before the event.
Glasses: if Jeff’s arrive, great. If they don’t, Jay has agreed to be helpful.
Glasses: if Jeff’s arrive, great. If they don’t, Jay has agreed to be helpful.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
They're trying to source themSushiNorth wrote:Any word on what's going on??g-man wrote:the guys I've ordered my glasses from still have not delivered them.
so we may be short glasses
i'll call again on monday to get status.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I’ll need four boxes for the old world. Do tell them and if it helps I can order them this week.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Actually, I meant with the glassesjdaw1 wrote:On Saturday 18th April 2009, starting about 6pm, ten of us are drinking much splendid port. A precise menu, and cost, and such other details as people request, will be available no later than five days before the event.

But to the original topic, it's time!
Ports:
Classic years of Taylor, Fonseca, Warre:
- 1948:
- Taylor;
- 1963:
- Taylor;
- 1966:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1977:
- Warre;
- Taylor;
- Fonseca;
- 1985:
- Warre;
- Fonseca.
- Taylor.
Saturday, April 18th 2009 from 6pm-11pm
Venue:
Petite Abeille
401 East 20th Street at First Avenue
NY 10010-7501
212 727 1505
Current attendees
1. JDAW;
2. RMW = RonnieRoots;
3. MDK = Lady Roots;
4. CE = Carl;
5. ED = Eric;
6. JHG = Jeff;
7. JES = Josh;
8. JB = John;
9. ODM = JDAW's friend;
10. DD = differentDave
$1801, divided up amongst people:
10: $180
If anything is otherwise, please let us all know promptly.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
stupid glasses still have not come... but then again they didn't charge my card yet.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
How many glasses do we have? Technically, we need 110.g-man wrote:stupid glasses still have not come... but then again they didn't charge my card yet.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
mm the glasses shipped, but I got hit with 35$ worth of shipment fees .... Is that right Julian?
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Question -- Are all wines sourced? I believe the majority were provided by Julian, just want to confirm that the T85 was acquired and that we are good to go. If there is an issue, I have a T85 about.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I have a T85 in perfect condition,SushiNorth wrote:Question -- Are all wines sourced? I believe the majority were provided by Julian, just want to confirm that the T85 was acquired and that we are good to go. If there is an issue, I have a T85 about.
and a possible F77 that Julian mentioned may not have been sourced.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Julian has 32? glasses,
Looks like I should be getting my 36 later tomorrow which would put us at 68 glasses immediately available.
Looks like I should be getting my 36 later tomorrow which would put us at 68 glasses immediately available.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I don’t recall that, but I can’t promise that I recall it at all.g-man wrote:mm the glasses shipped, but I got hit with 35$ worth of shipment fees .... Is that right Julian?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
Fret not my friends. Matters are in hand. And with the two backup bottles mentioned, we’re safe.SushiNorth wrote:Question -- Are all wines sourced?
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
shall we open discussions for decant times?
I was going to decant the taylor 85 a good 24 hours before our tasting.
The F77 would be opened the morning of the tasting.
I was going to decant the taylor 85 a good 24 hours before our tasting.
The F77 would be opened the morning of the tasting.
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Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
OK, we're off to NYC. And whether there are 110 glasses or not, we'll be there the 18th. 

Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I should have all the ports with me by the end of today. A list, hopefully concurring with previous list, will be posted.
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; W85. Me thirsty!
Re: Sat 18 Apr 2009, New York: Classic years of T, F, W
ah yer missing the F85 and the T85?jdaw1 wrote:I spy with my little eye: T48; T63; T66; F66; W66; F70; T77; F77; W77; W85. Me thirsty!
I have teh T85 on hand, I have to check to see if I have the F85 on hand as well. (the F85 might be in offiste)
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