The Dirty Dozen - London, 23 April 2013

Post by **DRT** » 18:09 Fri 15 Mar 2013

Post reserved for details of the event.

Location: The Bung Hole, 57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365.

People:

JDAW;
RAYC;
AHB;
BMHR;
AP;
DRT;
PW;
THRA;
DJ;
CMAG;
DN;
JNdA;
AP's +1;
CJ.

Post by **jdaw1** » 18:12 Fri 15 Mar 2013

DRT wrote:Post reserved for details of the event.

‟An Enterprise of Great Advantage, None to Know What it Is.”

I’m in.

The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365) had been booked for the Warre LBV tasting formerly scheduled for Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Presumably the Dirty Dozen will inherit this reservation.

benread · Post by **benread** » 18:51 Fri 15 Mar 2013

I have a pass for 23rd April. The specific wines we choose to share are of secondary importance!

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Post by **jdaw1** » 19:18 Fri 15 Mar 2013

First draft of the placemats.

Data taken from the Wikipedia page. I have remarked on the inconsistent spellings on its talk page: those with knowledge should help.

Post by **PhilW** » 10:47 Sat 16 Mar 2013

I'm in.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 15:08 Sat 16 Mar 2013

Me, too, +1, please.

Axel

Do we limit bottles/ guests somewhat or shall we try to get more VIPs from the trade?

Post by **jdaw1** » 15:16 Sat 16 Mar 2013

Contributing VIPs obviously have an advantage over non-contributing. How many is meant by ‟more”?

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 08:43 Tue 19 Mar 2013

Actually two: Dirk and Joao Nicolau de Almeida. If agreed I would invite them on behalf of the group and ask them to bring something.

Axel

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:01 Tue 19 Mar 2013

Tentative yes please.

Post by **DRT** » 01:09 Wed 20 Mar 2013

Axel P wrote:Actually two: Dirk and Joao Nicolau de Almeida. If agreed I would invite them on behalf of the group and ask them to bring something.

Axel

I agree.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 08:32 Wed 20 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:The Bung Hole[/url] (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365) had been booked for the Warre LBV tasting formerly scheduled for Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Presumably the Dirty Dozen will inherit this reservation.

And attendance list....

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:46 Wed 20 Mar 2013

RAYC wrote:And attendance list....

People:
JDAW;
RAYC;
AHB;
BMHR;
AP;
DRT;
PW;
THRA;
DJ.

Done.

Post by **PhilW** » 11:56 Wed 20 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
RAYC wrote:And attendance list....
People:
JDAW;
RAYC;
AHB;
BMHR;
AP;
DRT;
PW;
THRA;
DJ.
Done.

Based on Dirty Dozen discussion thread, spot should be reserved for "CG (TBC)" as member of original purchasing team and as he indicated he should be available, at least until he confirms or otherwise.
Also, based on your reply to Axel in thread, suggest the attendance list should also include "Dirk (TBC)" and "Joao Nicolau de Almeida (TBC)".

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:30 Wed 20 Mar 2013

PhilW wrote:Based on Dirty Dozen discussion thread, spot should be reserved for "CG (TBC)" as member of original purchasing team and as he indicated he should be available, at least until he confirms or otherwise.
Also, based on your reply to Axel in thread, suggest the attendance list should also include "Dirk (TBC)" and "Joao Nicolau de Almeida (TBC)".

Done.

Post by **DRT** » 21:18 Tue 26 Mar 2013

Am I organising this?

I think the plan we agreed at the Taylor Vertical is that the Dirty Dozen will comprise eight of the twelve bottles purchased by Tom some time ago on behalf of a subset of the team plus four of the bottles that were given to me by a kind benefactor a few weeks ago. Tom is to keep the remaining four bottles from the Dirty Dozen and therefore deduct a fair cost of those four from the cost of the original purchase. The remaining cost will be split equally between the attendees of this tasting, excluding the industry guests who are brining additional Port. The four that I am bringing are free.

Is that what was agreed?

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 21:28 Tue 26 Mar 2013

Sounds like a good plan and a very fitting use of the generously donated bottles.

Have we got an external table for the dinner (and if not, should we try to book?)

Post by **DRT** » 21:48 Tue 26 Mar 2013

RAYC wrote:Sounds like a good plan and a very fitting use of the generously donated bottles.

Excellent. We have a plan.

RAYC wrote:Have we got an external table for the dinner (and if not, should we try to book?)

Probably best if I book the tasting room first and then worry about the food table

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 22:03 Tue 26 Mar 2013

it should be booked already...

Post by **DRT** » 22:06 Tue 26 Mar 2013

RAYC wrote:it should be booked already...

Only if someone other than the organiser booked it

I have emailed Helen and explained the problem.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:10 Tue 26 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365) had been booked for the Warre LBV tasting formerly scheduled for Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Presumably the Dirty Dozen will inherit this reservation.

Post by **DRT** » 22:24 Tue 26 Mar 2013

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:The Bung Hole (57 High Holborn, London WC1V 6DT, tel 020 7831 8365) had been booked for the Warre LBV tasting formerly scheduled for Tuesday 23rd April 2013. Presumably the Dirty Dozen will inherit this reservation.

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Thank you.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 09:11 Sat 06 Apr 2013

Shall I ask the two industry guests

a) to attend
b) to bring something nice?

I would suggest if we agree to put them in, that we pay for their meals.

Axel

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 09:47 Sat 06 Apr 2013

Axel - you will be the better judge, but I would be happy if it was decided that we should not ask the industry guests to bring anything on this occasion.

Presumably they will have plenty to worry about with their BFT tastings, and it would be good if this was a nice relaxed evening for them. If we are at all worried about the bottles for the tasting being drawn from two previously untested sources, I am happy to contribute financially and/or with an appropriate bottle to broadening the tasting.

Post by **jdaw1** » 09:47 Sat 06 Apr 2013

In the first post #s 11 and 12 are industry people. Or did you mean somebody different?

Post by **PhilW** » 10:05 Sun 07 Apr 2013

Axel P wrote:Shall I ask the two industry guests

a) to attend
b) to bring something nice?

I would suggest if we agree to put them in, that we pay for their meals.

Axel

From earlier in thread, I unerstood we are already expecting Dirk and Joao Nicolau de Almeida; both are marked as TBC in the attendee list, as I think we are waiting to hear back frmo you for confirmation; If they have not already been invited then yes please do so. I'm sure they would bring something suitable.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 16:57 Mon 08 Apr 2013

Both guests are confirmed and will be attending.

Axel

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 16:59 Mon 08 Apr 2013

I will also bring an additional bottle. Shall we let people guess with all Ports or shall I provide the origin in advance?

Axel

Post by **DRT** » 21:34 Wed 10 Apr 2013

By email Axel asked me if he could bring a +1. The answer is yes and the first post has been updated.

Cynthia J · Post by **Cynthia J** » 09:36 Thu 11 Apr 2013

Hello Gentlemen (gentle cough... sorry, tickle in my throat!!) Would there be room for one more at the table by any miracle? If so, let me know what sort of wine I should bring, or I am happy to chip in financially to the general good. Thanks.

Axel P · Post by **Axel P** » 10:37 Thu 11 Apr 2013

CMaG will be attending, too.

Axel

Post by **DRT** » 21:59 Thu 11 Apr 2013

Cynthia J wrote:Hello Gentlemen (gentle cough... sorry, tickle in my throat!!) Would there be room for one more at the table by any miracle? If so, let me know what sort of wine I should bring, or I am happy to chip in financially to the general good. Thanks.

The last place at the table is now yours!

I will be letting people know soon how much the cost of each seat will be. There is no need to bring any wine.

Cynthia J · Post by **Cynthia J** » 22:33 Thu 11 Apr 2013

Thank you!! See you (and y'all) then.

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:34 Fri 12 Apr 2013

Seven unknowns from an auction lot; and some (≈5) bottles from a mystery donor; and two from Axel (thank you).

Problems:

• The description ‟dozen” is becoming inaccurate. Except that a ‟baker’s dozen” is thirteen, so surely a ‟TPF dozen” is fourteen? Solved.^”

• In which the placemat naming theme(s) might have to become more conventional, rather the names of characters in a famous film. How about 1→7 for the auction; a→e for the donor; and Axel’s α & β? Or seven hills of Rome (Palatine, Capitoline, Aventine, CÃ¦lian, Esquiline, Viminal, Quirinal), five books of the Pentateuch (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy), and the two types of Port (Mature VP, Immature VP)? Or maybe swap the last for â™‚ & â™€.

• There is also the perennial problem of table space. Rob will be away, so might not be able to work his magic. Fourteen fits on one A3, snugly, so that will have to be it.

” Wine merchants, take note. when we order ‟a dozen of !”, please deliver 14 bottles totalling 10½ litres.

Post by **Alex Bridgeman** » 20:02 Fri 12 Apr 2013

I like the idea of the proposed names for the first 12 ports, but find the last two less evocative. Instead of "mature port" and "immature port", how about "Saint Peter" and "Saint Paul", being the two patron saints of Rome and therefore linking your themes for the first 12 ports?

Post by **DRT** » 20:09 Fri 12 Apr 2013

Or we could use the names of some currently topical ships?

Post by **DRT** » 20:18 Fri 12 Apr 2013

DRT wrote:the Dirty Dozen will comprise eight of the twelve bottles purchased by Tom some time ago on behalf of a subset of the team plus four of the bottles that were given to me by a kind benefactor a few weeks ago.

Axel P wrote:Shall I ask the two industry guests

a) to attend
b) to bring something nice?

Axel P wrote:I will also bring an additional bottle.

jdaw1 wrote:Seven unknowns from an auction lot; and some (≈5) bottles from a mystery donor; and two from Axel (thank you).

I think jdaw1 counted the bottles quite late at night. My reading of what has been agreed is:

8 bottles from Tom.
4 bottles from me.
2 bottles from the guests.
1 bottle from Axel.
15 bottles in total.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:21 Fri 12 Apr 2013

AHB wrote:I like the idea of the proposed names for the first 12 ports, but find the last two less evocative. Instead of "mature port" and "immature port", how about "Saint Peter" and "Saint Paul", being the two patron saints of Rome and therefore linking your themes for the first 12 ports?

Yes that would be perfect.

Post by **jdaw1** » 20:25 Fri 12 Apr 2013

DRT wrote:I think jdaw1 counted the bottles quite late at night.

Ooops.

DRT wrote:15 bottles in total.

Then we need Rob’s magic. Rob?

AHB wrote:I like the idea of the proposed names for the first 12 ports, but find the last two less evocative. Instead of "mature port" and "immature port", how about "Saint Peter" and "Saint Paul", being the two patron saints of Rome and therefore linking your themes for the first 12 ports?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 20:31 Fri 12 Apr 2013

May I just point out that I am replying to your posts while DJing a night of music from all over Africa? I'm sort of inordinately proud of this effort of amazing multitasking, even whilst I recognise the futility of that feeling. But somehow the biblical exegesis is fitting well with the music.... Twelve Tribes of Israel. The plagues of the pharaoh. And so on.

Has anyone ever thought of doing a '40 days in the wilderness'-themed tasting? I think we should.

Cynthia J · Post by **Cynthia J** » 20:54 Fri 12 Apr 2013

Has anyone ever thought of doing a '40 days in the wilderness'-themed tasting? I think we should.

lol... Would that be a 40-day-long tasting? And applauding your wildly creative multitasking, well done!

Post by **DRT** » 21:46 Fri 12 Apr 2013

djewesbury wrote:Has anyone ever thought of doing a '40 days in the wilderness'-themed tasting?

A splendid theme for the next time RonnieRoots returns from the deserts of Oman.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 21:51 Fri 12 Apr 2013

I return on Sunday 21, so can do placemats.

Post by **DRT** » 21:53 Fri 12 Apr 2013

djewesbury wrote:May I just point out that I am replying to your posts while DJing a night of music from all over Africa? I'm sort of inordinately proud of this effort of amazing multitasking, even whilst I recognise the futility of that feeling.

You should take comfort from the fact that you are not multitasking. You are executing a series of linear tasks: start track >> read/post on

>> start another track >> read/post on

>> start another track >> etc.

Fear not, your masculinity remains intact.

Post by **jdaw1** » 07:51 Sat 13 Apr 2013

RAYC wrote:I return on Sunday 21, so can do placemats.

Thank you.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:03 Sat 20 Apr 2013

The list of attendees in the first post includes DN, JNdA, and ‟AP's +1”. Please could the placemat maker (me!) be told relevant details about the third of these, assuming no overlap with the first two.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:15 Sat 20 Apr 2013

New draft of the placemats.

Completely redone, hopefully in accordance with instructions received from DRT.

RAYC · Post by **RAYC** » 14:45 Sat 20 Apr 2013

Is that on a single page of A3?

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:48 Sat 20 Apr 2013

Post by **DRT** » 18:59 Sat 20 Apr 2013

jdaw1 wrote:Completely redone, hopefully in accordance with instructions received from DRT.

Not quite.

In an email earlier today, DRT wrote:15 circles on A3 numbered 1 to 15.

Subtitles for 1 to 8 to be DDa to DDh.

Subtitles for 9 to 12 to be SEa to SEd. SE being the initials of the guy who donated the bottles.

Subtitles for 13 to 15 to be the initials of the people bringing the bottles. Axel, Dirk and Joao.

Could you please change the order of the subtitles to correspond with the above and set the parameters so that they appear as:

1 4 7 10 13
2 5 8 11 14
3 6 9 12 13

Post by **jdaw1** » 19:17 Sat 20 Apr 2013

Updated draft of the placemats.

Slightly redone, hopefully in accordance with instructions received from DRT.