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by DRT » 15:08 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: Derek seems keen to get this over.
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by LGTrotter » 15:22 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Of course; Dow 91.
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by Alex Bridgeman » 15:24 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Royal Oporto 1985
I wonder how long we can guess without getting the right answer? How many combinations of shipper and vintage are there?
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by djewesbury » 15:25 Sat 02 Nov 2013
AHB wrote: Royal Oporto 1985
I wonder how long we can guess without getting the right answer? How many combinations of shipper and vintage are there?
Oh quite a while I think.
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by Alex Bridgeman » 15:28 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Hutcheson 1978
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by djewesbury » 15:31 Sat 02 Nov 2013
I think it might be Sandeman 1910.
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by LGTrotter » 15:35 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Andre; I see you are here, put Derek out of his misery or pass the loaded revolver to me and I shall do it as a kindness.
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by Alex Bridgeman » 15:36 Sat 02 Nov 2013
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by AW77 » 15:38 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Owen, you can take my shot. I didn't really follow your conversation as I was busy elsewhere on TPF.
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by LGTrotter » 15:40 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Everybody sure? No late takers?
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by djewesbury » 15:42 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Junco 1955
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by LGTrotter » 15:43 Sat 02 Nov 2013
I can hardly look into his pleading eyes.
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by djewesbury » 15:45 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Don't do it. Not yet. Let's have more fun with him.
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by LGTrotter » 15:46 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Forgive me Derek but Vesuvio 94 *sobs uncontollaby and drops the smoking weapon*
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by Alex Bridgeman » 15:57 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Vesuvio 1994 might not be right...I guess Real Vinicola 1985
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by djewesbury » 15:59 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Feuerheerd 1966
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by DRT » 16:12 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: Forgive me Derek but Vesuvio 94 *sobs uncontollaby and drops the smoking weapon*
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by LGTrotter » 17:37 Sat 02 Nov 2013
I hated to see him suffer.
A simple one; my nom de plume on this forum is LGTrotter; what do the initials LG stand for? I will award extra points if you know the two reasons he didn't want a knighthood, but these are not a requirement.
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by djewesbury » 17:47 Sat 02 Nov 2013
The [url=http://mysite.verizon.net/exdejesus/jeeves/]Encyclopedia Jeevesiana[/url] wrote:Trotter, L.G. (Lemuel Gengulphus) (JAFS)
Husband of Mrs. Trotter.
Step-father of Percy Gorringe.
Owner of chain of newspapers. Aunt Dahlia wants to sell Milady's Boudoir to Trotter.
Refused a knighthood.
Employer of Worple.
Residence: Liverpool
Identifying characteristics: Face like a weasel, poor digestion, teetotaler.
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by djewesbury » 17:50 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Wikipedia wrote:... the frightful prospect of being called by the abhorrent name "Sir Lemuel" for the rest of his life if his wife managed to get him knighted.
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by LGTrotter » 17:54 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Correct; Daniel's go.
(He did not want a knighthood because he did not want to be known as Sir Lemuel or Sir Gengolfus. Also he was worried by the prospect of having to walk backwards with a sword between his legs wearing satin knee breeches). Love Wodehouse me.
I see you have won one of the two extra points available Daniel.
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by LGTrotter » 18:01 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: Correct; Daniel's go
Now where is my unpublished manuscript on althusserian aesthetics...
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by djewesbury » 18:04 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: Also he was worried by the prospect of having to walk backwards with a sword between his legs wearing satin knee breeches
A pertinent concern even now.
No need for any knowledge of French Marxists who strangled their wives. Instead, back to family history for an easy question. My great-grandfather has visited this quiz before. Name the Nazi whose prosecution he led.
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by LGTrotter » 18:16 Sat 02 Nov 2013
djewesbury wrote: No need for any knowledge of French Marxists who strangled their wives.
I suppose that divorce was costlier and less certain in those days, but really...
Mengele (no google)
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by djewesbury » 18:19 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: djewesbury wrote: No need for any knowledge of French Marxists who strangled their wives.
I suppose that divorce was costlier and less certain in those days, but really...
He was
terribly sorry about it afterwards.
LGTrotter wrote: Mengele (no google)
Not Mengele. Google may not be much help here, even if you knew my great-grandfather's name (which, before you go searching, has not been revealed here).
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by LGTrotter » 18:39 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Oh well that's all right then. Glad to see his temporary amnesia abated in time for his autobiography.
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by DRT » 18:46 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Amon Goeth?
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by djewesbury » 19:00 Sat 02 Nov 2013
DRT wrote: Amon Goeth?
Never heard of him, he sounds like a Prog Rock band from Düsseldorf.
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by DRT » 19:08 Sat 02 Nov 2013
djewesbury wrote: DRT wrote: Amon Goeth?
Never heard of him
If you have seen Schindler's List you are familiar with his work.
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by djewesbury » 19:12 Sat 02 Nov 2013
DRT wrote: djewesbury wrote: DRT wrote: Amon Goeth?
Never heard of him
If you have seen Schindler's List you are familiar with his work.
Oh, Ralph Fiennes. Ugh. No.
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by DRT » 19:16 Sat 02 Nov 2013
djewesbury wrote: Ugh.
Is that an grading of his Naziness? I've never considered that they had a scale.
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by LGTrotter » 19:19 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Just had a look at the list, it's really long. Let's start with Nuremburg (although I suspect it may not be the right one)
Julius Streicher.
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by djewesbury » 19:20 Sat 02 Nov 2013
DRT wrote: djewesbury wrote: Ugh.
Is that an grading of his Naziness? I've never considered that they had a scale.
No, just a reflex response to the character as portrayed in the film.. Ralph Fiennes can do unempathable pretty well.
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by djewesbury » 19:22 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: Just had a look at the list, it's really long. Let's start with Nuremburg (although I suspect it may not be the right one)
Julius Streicher.
No.
I will provide clues if necessary.. though it's hard to do so without giving it away. But there have been suggestions (I think from the Americans) that the prosecution was not well executed.
EDIT: on reflection, perhaps I should say, 'not very good'.
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by LGTrotter » 19:30 Sat 02 Nov 2013
djewesbury wrote: unempathable
Now this is surely made up. And clumsy. How unlike you. (I don't mean making it up,being clumsy)
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by djewesbury » 19:31 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: djewesbury wrote: unempathable
Now this is surely made up. And clumsy. How unlike you. (I don't mean making it up,being clumsy)
I quite liked it...
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by AW77 » 19:38 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Your great-grandfather was British, not American?
I just ask because except for the main trial most judges were American.
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by DRT » 19:41 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: (I don't mean making it up,being clumsy)
Oh dear.
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by djewesbury » 19:43 Sat 02 Nov 2013
AW77 wrote: Your great-grandfather was British, not American?
I just ask because except for the main trial most judges were American.
He was not a judge, he was a prosecutor. In fact the judges, and all the legal teams, at Nuremberg were from all four Allied powers. He was working with David Maxwell-Fyfe, under the leadership of Hartley Shawcross. He did not have a double-barrelled name, though he did have a middle name which was almost always used in talking about him. He also had a nickname, which he gained in the First World War, and which was used very broadly by family and professional acquaintances alike. The nickname had some relationship to WW1 uniforms.
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by LGTrotter » 19:50 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Can someone give a name so I can continue working through this list.
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by LGTrotter » 19:53 Sat 02 Nov 2013
DRT wrote: LGTrotter wrote: (I don't mean making it up,being clumsy)
Oh dear.
He was making it up. But I apologise if I have transgressed some rule, like bandying a woman's name.
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by djewesbury » 19:54 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Have you bandied a woman's name?
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by LGTrotter » 20:08 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Not here; I was using the expression metaphorically.
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by DRT » 20:29 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: DRT wrote: LGTrotter wrote: (I don't mean making it up,being clumsy)
Oh dear.
He was making it up. But I apologise if I have transgressed some rule, like bandying a woman's name.
I was focusing on the irony of you being clumsy with your typing whilst accusing Daniel of being clumsy.
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by DRT » 20:29 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Is anyone ever going to name another Nazi?
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by DRT » 20:32 Sat 02 Nov 2013
DRT wrote: Is anyone ever going to name another Nazi?
LGTrotter wrote: Julius Streicher.
Thank you.
Joseph Goebbels?
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by LGTrotter » 20:33 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Phew. I was just eating dinner with the sombre thought that I may have overstepped the mark on this very kindly forum and composing in my head some contrite response.
Do we have another name yet in this very jolly game of 'guess the nazi' yet?
Oh I see Derek has; then Albert Speer.
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by djewesbury » 20:33 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Not Goebbels.
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by DRT » 20:36 Sat 02 Nov 2013
Hermann Göring?
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by DRT » 20:37 Sat 02 Nov 2013
LGTrotter wrote: this very jolly game of 'guess the nazi'
Best laugh I've had on a Saturday night for years
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