B&F, or BAF, or B+F, or BaF?

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:42 Thu 18 Dec 2014

[url=http://www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=85664#p85664]Here[/url] DRT wrote:BAF

I almost choked on my zinfandel. No no no, please, B&F.

Poll edited by DRT @ 12:22 on 19/12/14, and then by jdaw1 on the same day

Post by **DRT** » 21:47 Thu 18 Dec 2014

The official name is Boot and Flogger. BAF, not B&F.

Post by **DRT** » 21:50 Thu 18 Dec 2014

In the question for the poll in this thread jdaw1 wrote:Boot & Flogger?

Which is misleading propaganda designed to influence the electorate.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:50 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?

Post by **DRT** » 21:52 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?

No. We are debating important stuff here. We need a team view. PM me the votes and I will cast them by proxy.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:52 Thu 18 Dec 2014

B&F. Obviously.

Post by **DRT** » 21:54 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:B&F. Obviously.

Sorry, you submitted a spoiled paper.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:54 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:00 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Our WOTNs were G33, W55 (bt 59), G27Cr. 4th was Rebello Valente 27.

Post by **DRT** » 22:04 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:B&F

Sorry, this isn't a Robert Mugabe election - one man one vote, and you threw yours away.

BAF wins by proportional representation.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:05 Thu 18 Dec 2014

JDAW may have something to say about that. When he's finished drinking his Zinfandel.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:13 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?

May I vote for the 1842 sherry?

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:16 Thu 18 Dec 2014

We are not voting for the full name of the Boot & Flogger (B&F), nor for the full name of the Boot and Flogger (which would be BaF). This is a vote for the name of the abbreviation, DRT having used “BAF” (presumably Boot And Flogger, would you believe it?).

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:21 Thu 18 Dec 2014

No. I wouldn't. It's preposterous.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:21 Thu 18 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
djewesbury wrote:Sorry, could you two please just concentrate on nominating your WOTN? Your choices include N63, T35, G33, G27Cr, 1904 unk, W55... Or maybe you liked the 1842 sherry?
May I vote for the 1842 sherry?

Thought you might.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:23 Thu 18 Dec 2014

And your favourite port?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 22:28 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Oh look, it's changed. This is in no way related to the sharp practice in the tappit hen poll. I assumed that BAF would be a good compromise, as the A could stand for and or ampersand.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:30 Thu 18 Dec 2014

A for ampersand? Get back in the orchard you obscurantist.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 22:50 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:A for ampersand? Get back in the orchard you obscurantist.

Tactical voting. Go on join us, BAF, BAF, BAF. four more years, yes we can, etc, etc.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:52 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Troglodyte. Coelocanth. Bashi-bazouk.

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 22:53 Thu 18 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote: Bashi-bazouk.

Come again? Don't worry I'll look it up.

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 23:29 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Seems to me some of you men at the tasting are multi tasking. Very dangerous! Just do one thing and do it well, so please concentrate on all that lovely port and let all us (voyeurs?) pour over the tasting notes.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 23:31 Thu 18 Dec 2014

Don't pour over the tasting notes, they're written in ink and I won't be able to read them!

Justin K · Post by **Justin K** » 23:45 Thu 18 Dec 2014

I was planning to pour over an iPhone but no fear it won't be connected to a power outlet!

Post by **PhilW** » 12:10 Fri 19 Dec 2014

Where's the B+F option?

Post by **DRT** » 12:24 Fri 19 Dec 2014

DRT wrote:
In the question for the poll in this thread jdaw1 wrote:Boot & Flogger?
Which is misleading propaganda designed to influence the electorate.

PhilW wrote:Where's the B+F option?

Poll edited.

Post by **jdaw1** » 13:15 Fri 19 Dec 2014

DRT wrote:Poll edited.

Re-edited.

Post by **jdaw1** » 14:39 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1, in an email to the B&F, wrote:Hello.

We are having a discussion about how to abbreviate the name of Davy”s first wine bar.
www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9357
Obvious possibilities include:
• B&F
• B+F
• BAF
• BaF

Please, what abbreviation is used within Davy’s?

Happy Christmas,

— Julian Wiseman.

Tom, by email, wrote:Hi Julian,

We use the abbreviation BFL.

Kind regards,

Tom

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 14:45 Fri 19 Dec 2014

That's like an airport code.

Glenn E. · Post by **Glenn E.** » 16:42 Fri 19 Dec 2014

We use the abbreviation BFL.

Beer for loggers?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 18:24 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1, in an email to the B&F, wrote:Hello.

We are having a discussion about how to abbreviate the name of Davy”s first wine bar.
www.theportforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=9357
Obvious possibilities include:
• B&F
• B+F
• BAF
• BaF

Please, what abbreviation is used within Davy’s?

Happy Christmas,

— Julian Wiseman.
Tom, by email, wrote:Hi Julian,

We use the abbreviation BFL.

Kind regards,

Tom

Why, then, is this option not included in the Poll? Should it be? Do we need another Poll?

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 21:04 Fri 19 Dec 2014

There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:09 Fri 19 Dec 2014

LGTrotter wrote:There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!

Encore, say I, yes indeed, I back Owen!

Post by **jdaw1** » 21:14 Fri 19 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:That's like an airport code.

Airport codes are not eligible. Wrong passport: do not pass Go, do not collect £200.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 21:21 Fri 19 Dec 2014

Oh well. I voted anyway.

Post by **DRT** » 22:27 Fri 19 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:
LGTrotter wrote:There is a democratic deficit at the port forum, we need BFL on the poll. Devo max!
Encore, say I, yes indeed, I back Owen!

Agreed. I will edit the Poll.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:28 Fri 19 Dec 2014

Admin usurped by other admin shocker!!

Post by **DRT** » 22:30 Fri 19 Dec 2014

djewesbury wrote:Admin usurped by other admin shocker!!

There is a precedent. Do you not remember the Honourable Member for Streatham having to concede that the abbreviation for Cockburn should follow that used by the shipper?

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:32 Fri 19 Dec 2014

Aha yes. A victory for common sense was what The Times called it.

Post by **DRT** » 22:33 Fri 19 Dec 2014

Everyone needs to vote again.

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:41 Fri 19 Dec 2014

DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.

Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:43 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.
Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.

Oo-er. We have a haughty abstainer. The people of Streatham are disenfranchised.

Post by **DRT** » 22:44 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
DRT wrote:Everyone needs to vote again.
Very European. Perhaps very Scottish.

Which is why I didn’t.

Not me. Editing the Poll wiped out all the votes (which it didn't on the other occasions it was edited).

Post by **jdaw1** » 22:46 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:Which is why I didn’t.

Apologies, I was unclear. I should have written “Which is why I didn’t edit the poll.”

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 22:50 Fri 19 Dec 2014

jdaw1 wrote:
jdaw1 wrote:Which is why I didn’t.
Apologies, I was unclear. I should have written “Which is why I didn’t edit the poll.”

Always a problem. Julian being inexact and wishy-washy.

The poll is on a knife edge. We are expecting late returns from Belfast...

djewesbury · Post by **djewesbury** » 22:51 Fri 19 Dec 2014

:chokes with laughter:

LGTrotter · Post by **LGTrotter** » 11:53 Sat 20 Dec 2014

I take it this is the first round poll and we will have a second round where there is a run off between the top two.

And I notice that there have been a total of 101% of votes cast. Like all those people who promise to give 110% at job interviews.

Post by **jdaw1** » 12:59 Sat 20 Dec 2014

LGTrotter wrote:I take it this is the first round poll and we will have a second round where there is a run off between the top two.

No. This is a simple FPTP vote.

Multiple rounds — pah! (See Non-Intuitive Features of Electoral Systems for examples of non-monotonicity.)

Post by **DRT** » 13:53 Sat 20 Dec 2014

FPTP - agreed.

So the only remaining question is who is going to be our Nick Clegg?

Post by **jdaw1** » 23:55 Mon 12 Jan 2015

“B&F”: 4 votes
“B+F”: 2 votes
“BAF”: 1 vote
“BFL”: 1 vote
“BaF”: 0 votes

We have a result, and by a chunky margin: B&F.

How should we abbreviate the Boot &/And/+/and Flogger?