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The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 17:58 Tue 01 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
The great duel is underway, forsooth. Who can use the word “forsooth” the most often (obviously excluding those in this thread, and excluding quotations). Let’s recap the goals so far.
First blood to Owen.
Second blood to Owen.
And third blood to, err, Owen.
So the score so far:
LGTrotter 3 : 0 Rest Of World
We can do better, forsooth.
(And yes, there are more than zero words that only I have used on this forum. But I’m guessing you won’t find any, excepting the non-words in PostScript.)
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 18:17 Tue 01 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
I note with disdain that 'zounds', 'gramercy' and 'filibuster' have never made it onto the payroll until now. I note with delight that 'tuppence' has.
Are you saying I'm getting repetitive Julian?
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 22:15 Wed 02 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
Nothing wrong with 'nugatory' and 'plangent' as words either.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 22:23 Wed 02 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
And why does Pliny make it but Herodotus doesn't? Or Bede for that matter.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 06:55 Thu 03 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Oh dear, I see we're indulging him now...
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 01:13 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
jdaw1 wrote:(And yes, there are more the zero words that only I have used on this forum. But I’m guessing you won’t find any, excepting the non-words in PostScript.)
Anathema was a word only
you had used until I used it today. I shall hunt down all the others and shoot them like dogs.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 21:27 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Arrant
Trepanning
Reheboth
Filibuster
Wainscoting
Architrave
Reredos
Dithyramb
Sphinges
Paschal
Bocage
Meliorist
The rule of the game is that anyone who can introduce one of these words in another thread - one of the serious ones - in such a way that it's clearly in context, and not remotely gratuitous, wins points, as determined by me. Once all the words are exhausted we see who's got most points.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 22:51 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
Do I get an extra half point for having been the only person yet to use the word “pessimal”? And no, the idea is not arrant nonsense: it rewards those who have anticipated this game.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 22:57 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by DRT
A Hat-trick? (with an extra half point for humiliating Daniel with the double-t jibe?)
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:01 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
My usage was better, but eight minutes slow.
Re: Predicting the future
Posted: 23:03 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Moved from immediately after this post in the thread entitled Predicting the future.
LGTrotter wrote:A further thought; I think much can be told about the future of a particular wine if we consider the architecture of a wine. Too often the basics are overlooked and we consider the unimportant fripperies, the wainscotting, the architraves. What of the bricks and mortar? Ask yourself with each port; does this have a firm foundation? (n.b. two 't's).
You lose all your points by trying to be too clever. Wainscoting has only one T.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:03 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:A Hat-trick? (with an extra half point for humiliating Daniel with the double-t jibe?)
See the response in the relevant post. He compounded his solecism by cleaving so to its rightness.
EDIT: But a nice try. In the spirit of the game at least.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:04 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
Love pessimal.
DRT wrote:A Hat-trick? (with an extra half point for humiliating Daniel with the double-t jibe?)
Oh no, don't set Daniel on me, I shall be exposed for the arrant (again) meliorist I am.
Re: Software that makes placemats
Posted: 23:05 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Moved from immediately after this post in the thread entitled Software that makes placemats.
jdaw1 wrote:The variant
/Architrave, or
/PostsAndArchitrave, has been suggested. I think it not worth the bother of the change.
3 points.
Re: Predicting the future
Posted: 23:05 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
I think you might find...
Re: Predicting the future
Posted: 23:12 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:I think you might find...
Yes, me too.
Re: Ramos-Pinto: a vertical
Posted: 23:13 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Moved from immediately after this post in the thread entitled Ramos-Pinto: a vertical.
jdaw1 wrote:FYI, Ramos Pinto have asked whether João Nicolau de Almeida should start with a formal presentation, including slides. I have asked not, preferring that the dithyramb come in the middle of the event, after JNdA has tasted the Ports himself, and is much less formal. Presumably he will speak alone.
3 more points.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:19 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:24 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:24 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by DRT
jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Golden rule broken. If you are going to Admin tell people what has moved from where to where.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:26 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Green penned again...
It was that wicked Jewesbury wot made me do it.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:28 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Green penned again...
It was that wicked Jewesbury wot made me do it.
Forsooth!
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:29 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:30 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Green penned again...
It was that wicked Jewesbury wot made me do it.
DRT wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Golden rule broken. If you are going to Admin tell people what has moved from where to where.
But it was I who was green-penned, and I was told.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:36 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by DRT
Future readers will not know what went where.
Golden rule broken.
Do you want me to write it in green?
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:38 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
djewesbury wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:39 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:Future readers will not know what went where.
Golden rule broken.
Do you want me to write it in green?
No, golden rules are there for Julian to trifle with.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:41 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:Future readers will not know what went where.
Golden rule broken.
Do you want me to write it in green?
Go on then.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:42 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
Posts were made elsewhere, appropriate to those topics, but carefully worded. Then Daniel replied, in those threads, on the subject of this duel. So I moved the duel-subject posts to this thread.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:43 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:Posts were made elsewhere, appropriate to those topics, but carefully worded. Then Daniel replied, in those threads, on the subject of this duel. So I moved the duel-subject posts to this thread.
And I for one am perfectly happy about that.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:44 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
LGTrotter wrote:djewesbury wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:46 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
DRT wrote:jdaw1 wrote:Some posts on this subject have been moved here — as they distract from other conversations on other subjects.
Golden rule broken. If you are going to Admin tell people what has moved from where to where.
Daniel's permission was sought before acting, and if wanted I can add links. (Though now on Tapatalk.)
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:50 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by DRT
I misread, apologies.
I thought posts had been moved from here to elsewhere without the destination being revealed.
Pink? Interesting.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:51 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:djewesbury wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.
+++ FINAL ADJUDICATION FOLLOWS +++
These days a dithyramb is more or less synonymous with a paean, or even (though without the possible solemnity) a eulogy.
João Nicolau de Almeida presenting the wonderful story of Ramos Pinto would clearly fall into this category, particularly when he is faced with an appreciative audience such as ourselves.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:51 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
jdaw1 wrote:LGTrotter wrote:djewesbury wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I am pleased to say that I do not have to look up dithyramb to know that it has not been used correctly. I think.
It has been used entirely correctly. An extra point to Julian for your being such a bad sport.
Yes, perhaps I should have checked that no Classical Greek dancers or poetry composed along particular lines had been offered as an intermezzo for slides. I presumed too much.
I agree that the usage went slightly beyond the strict classical meaning. But in the sense of a song to the god of wine, I hoped that it was close enough.
I am a simple soul and I know I will pay dearly for this in the long run but the simple pleasure of picking you up on something slightly off key has been a joy. I think it says more for your fastidiousness than it does for my schadenfreude. I should also say that I know this because I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 23:55 Mon 07 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
So I think we cleared all that up. Night.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 00:03 Tue 08 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
Words remaining:
djewesbury wrote:
Trepanning
Reheboth
Filibuster
Reredos
Sphinges
Paschal
Bocage
The rule of the game is that anyone who can introduce one of these words in another thread - one of the serious ones - in such a way that it's clearly in context, and not remotely gratuitous, wins points, as determined by me. Once all the words are exhausted we see who's got most points.
These scores are just in on the ticker tape from James Alexander Gordon:
jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 05:43 Tue 08 Jul 2014
by PopulusTremula
djewesbury wrote:Words remaining:
djewesbury wrote:
Trepanning
Reheboth
Filibuster
Reredos
Sphinges
Paschal
Bocage
The rule of the game is that anyone who can introduce one of these words in another thread - one of the serious ones - in such a way that it's clearly in context, and not remotely gratuitous, wins points, as determined by me. Once all the words are exhausted we see who's got most points.
These scores are just in on the ticker tape from James Alexander Gordon:
jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
Is trepanning not what Derek would rather have instead of drinking Real Vinicola '83?
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 09:40 Tue 08 Jul 2014
by DRT
LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 11:17 Tue 08 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
DRT wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
A vine is a short endlessly looping video posted on the intermezzo (as I believe it's called). I would like to watch some wayward tendrils of the vine. Where can I find them?
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 01:31 Wed 09 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
djewesbury wrote:jdaw1: 6 points
LGTrotter: –10 points
Everyone else: 0 points
Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 01:34 Wed 09 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
DRT wrote:LGTrotter wrote:I was picked up on it by the woman who runs 'wayward tendrils of the vine'.
A very nice lady. Are you a subscriber?
Used to, lovely thing though. I found it (understandably) very centred on America. I would certainly recommend it to anybody keen on wine writing.
The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 14:31 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
PopulusTremula wrote:LGTrotter wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:LGTrotter wrote:Andy Velebil wrote:I thought this was the other place
lol. (Just joking if course)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I think he should have said 'I spy strangers' as he sits on the green benches. (As always with my tongue in my cheek.)
Translate to "this side of pond English" please lol
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saying 'I spy strangers' in the House of Commons (British parliament) is a ruse to disrupt proceedings. It dates back to times when spys or even actual attack was a possibility. It was used on occasion to devastating effect by Dennis Skinner among others to most theatrical effect. Sergeants at arms running around and Black Rod in a lather.
I hang my head in shame to say that by implying you sit on the green benches of the commons I was using a bit of one-upmanship to say that this was the 'Upper House' as the Lords is referred to. God it sounds complicated. And not in the least amusing.
By forcing a vote as to whether the strangers should be removed from the Commons, uttering this phrase then has a similar effect to filibustering, no?
By making a gerund from the given word,
JWEW PopulusTremula scores an additional 5 points!
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 15:08 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by PopulusTremula
djewesbury wrote:By making a gerund from the given word, JWEW scores an additional 5 points!
If JWEW is me, through some Times cryptic crossword type of logic, then yay.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 15:27 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
PopulusTremula wrote:djewesbury wrote:By making a gerund from the given word, JWEW scores an additional 5 points!
If JWEW is me, through some Times cryptic crossword type of logic, then yay.
Whoops. Corrected. 5 more points for spotting the deliferate mistale.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 17:53 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
Daniel being unfair and inaccurate with his points allocation? Never noticed, myself.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 20:05 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by djewesbury
LGTrotter wrote:Daniel being unfair and inaccurate with his points allocation? Never noticed, myself.
Fined half your match fee for dissent.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 20:34 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by jdaw1
djewesbury wrote:Fined half your match fee for dissent.
Match fee? My agent has sorely let me down. I want a match fee.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 20:55 Thu 10 Jul 2014
by LGTrotter
jdaw1 wrote:djewesbury wrote:Fined half your match fee for dissent.
Match fee? My agent has sorely let me down. I want a match fee.
Exactly, where is it? Lost, along with the Ray Whelan of
, D. Jewesbury esq.
Re: The Great ‘Forsooth’ Duel
Posted: 21:49 Fri 11 Jul 2014
by jdaw1