1970 Horizontal, Jan 30st in London

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1970 Horizontal, Jan 30st in London

Post by Axel P » 09:55 Wed 07 Jan 2009

Since there was such a hughe reply and the seats were taken by the minute we planned this, I delayed this post a bit.

There wil be a hughe VP 1970 Tasting in the RAF Club in London on Jan 30st, organized by the german side of the Port Lovers. We choose the location London because of the UK definitely being the place to have this kind of tastings.

14 persons form the UK, Portugal and Germany, will join the tasting and since there are some amongst us who are writing a lot in the forum there will be TNs afterwards.

We included the following wines into the tasting:
Andresen
Barros
Borges
Butler Nephew
Calem Quinta do Foz
Cockburn
Croft
Da Silva
Dalva
Delaforce
Dow
Ferreira
Fonseca
Grahams
Gonzales Byass
Gould Campbell
Hutcheson
Kopke
Martinez
Messias
Morgan
Niepoort
Noval
Noval Nacional
Offley Boa Vista
Ramos Pinto
Rebello Valente
Royal Oporto
Sandeman
Sibio
Smith Woodhouse
Taylors
Warre
(and some more as candidates depending on availability and price)

I would like to thank uncle tom in advance to help us out with some of the VPs although not personally participating.

There is also a note about this tasting at:
http://www.infoportwine.com/

More to come

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Post by Axel P » 13:54 Thu 08 Jan 2009

Outstanding jdaw, thanks.

Please let us wait until the final setting is done since one or two additional candidates might show up soon.

As well we should differenciate the placemats into afternoon and evening session

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Post by Axel P » 21:17 Thu 08 Jan 2009

with or without Vargellas and Burmester and QH?

For your work I promise you the "prima nocte"-right for all of them. Meaning you are to uncork them all....
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Post by DRT » 21:27 Thu 08 Jan 2009

Axel P wrote:with or without Vargellas and Burmester and QH?

For your work I promise you the "prima nocte"-right for all of them. Meaning you are to uncork them all....
I think that also gives him the right to sleep with all of our wives :shock:
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Post by jdaw1 » 21:43 Thu 08 Jan 2009

DRT wrote:I think that also gives him the right to sleep with all of our wives :shock:
I think Derek means this in the same way that he has slept with most of ours: he on the kitchen floor; she at least a storey away.

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Re: 1970 Horizontal, Jan 30st in London

Post by RonnieRoots » 11:41 Tue 27 Jan 2009

Just out of interest: on what basis is the divide into sub-regions made?

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By Command of Alex Bridgeman, no less.

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Post by RonnieRoots » 10:51 Wed 28 Jan 2009

It would be interesting to hear from winemakers to what extent that division is accurate. I presume that e.g. Taylor's is listed as Douro Superior because of Vargellas. But what is the % of Vargellas in the blend? And how much comes from Terra Feita and others. Interesting subject!

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Post by JacobH » 11:22 Wed 28 Jan 2009

RonnieRoots wrote:It would be interesting to hear from winemakers to what extent that division is accurate. I presume that e.g. Taylor's is listed as Douro Superior because of Vargellas. But what is the % of Vargellas in the blend? And how much comes from Terra Feita and others. Interesting subject!
I was wondering about that. Also, presumably, the blend changes each vintage, depending on how well certain wines have done and what deals have been struck with the independents.

Anyway, sounds like a great evening. Those of you to have been invited are very fortunate!
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Post by jdaw1 » 15:36 Wed 28 Jan 2009

With two sessions of 17 or 18 bottles, some sub-division into flights was needed. Even if only a modest proportion comes from the flagship vineyard, it isn’t such a bad flighting criterion.

Rephrased, how would you have have split into flights?

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Post by JacobH » 15:52 Wed 28 Jan 2009

jdaw1 wrote:Rephrased, how would you have have split into flights?
Date of shipper's foundation.
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Post by jdaw1 » 16:42 Wed 28 Jan 2009

JacobH wrote:Date of shipper's foundation.
Presumably after a merger the date of foundation would be deemed to be that of the alphabetically earlier?

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Post by JacobH » 16:46 Wed 28 Jan 2009

jdaw1 wrote:
JacobH wrote:Date of shipper's foundation.
Presumably after a merger the date of foundation would be deemed to be that of the alphabetically earlier?
That could work. Or the date of the merger. Depends on the context. It would also have the advantage that you would not be drinking the Nacional (c.1931) at the same time as the Noval (1715).
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Post by RonnieRoots » 08:13 Thu 29 Jan 2009

jdaw1 wrote:Rephrased, how would you have have split into flights?
I think I would either use the shipper's tiers as mentioned in Mayson's book, or use Michael Broadbent's scores.
But this division is very interesting as well.

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Post by jdaw1 » 13:59 Thu 29 Jan 2009

RonnieRoots wrote:I think I would either use the shipper's tiers as mentioned in Mayson's book, or use Michael Broadbent's scores.
But this division is very interesting as well.
OK, I need to research ‟shipper's tiers”. But scores (from multiple sources) were used to separate into sessions afternoon or evening.

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Post by jdaw1 » 16:48 Thu 29 Jan 2009

People are asked to be polite by not noticing the spelling error in the placemats. (They’ve been printed too late to repair.)

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Post by Axel P » 21:47 Thu 29 Jan 2009

Just a very honest thanks to all of the forum who were involved in the preperations ahead:

Although the tasting is a solely german founded idea, the place is more british than any other on the island and without the help of some of you guys prep would have been much harder.

A very special thanks to:

Jdaw - for outstanding ideas and - of course - his traditional placemaps.
Alex - for very keen, solid ideas and for always being there, when needed
Derek - for having done the what we believed impossible: Organising a QH 70, and for being a solid pole in the prep
and last, but definitely not least Uncle Tom - for letting go 4 of his babies and not even participating.

I wish all of us and especially Wolfgang, Ben and myself an oustanding evening with a complexity of VPs from our year of birth that will not be there again (in history?).

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Post by DRT » 23:27 Thu 29 Jan 2009

jdaw1 wrote:People are asked to be polite by not noticing the spelling error in the placemats. (They’ve been printed too late to repair.)
I can report that normal service has resumed. I checked them as carefully as I could and can't spot the error :lol:
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Re: 1970 Horizontal, Jan 30st in London

Post by jdaw1 » 09:27 Sat 31 Jan 2009

González Byass, not Gonzáles Byass.

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